[ SECRET POST #4160 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4160 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.]



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[The Russian version of Sherlock Holmes]


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05. [SPOILERS for Yuri on Ice]



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06. [SPOILERS for Avengers: Infinity War]



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07. [SPOILERS for TAZ: Balance arc]



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08. [WARNING for suicide]



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09. [WARNING for discussion of pedophilia]



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10. [WARNING for discussion of abuse]














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Comments

[fscom]

06. [SPOILERS for Avengers: Infinity War]
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[(Anonymous)]

Wow it's almost as if someone called "The Mad Titan" might be kind of crazy.

[kaijinscendre]

If you give a man a resource, he is fed for a day. If you kill half of a man's world he is fed for life. At least his life, that is.

Also, I think one of the big things about Thanos is he was mad that his world did not go with his plan. So he is DETERMINED to prove his plan works.

[philstar22]

This. He's entirely focused. He's never considered other alternatives because he's become obsessed with this plan. The idea of using the stones for anything else hasn't even occurred to him because his mind is so obsessed and totally focused on the plan he has.

[(Anonymous)]

Wait, there's people actually arguing in favor of Thanos? I'm not as interested in the MCU as I used to be, but the comments I've seen about him where pretty much the same complaints from this secret.

[(Anonymous)]

Reminds me of all the "Killmonger was right" people in favor of racial genocide.

[philstar22]

Saying he's complex /= saying he's right. Saying Thanos is right is as stupid as saying Killmonger is right. But they are both complicated villains.

[(Anonymous)]

Killmonger didn't want racial genocide, where did you get that idea?

[(Anonymous)]

Think of it from a smaller scale. Earth has over 7 billion people and they are constantly polluting the planet with their cars and trash. Prices of resources increase when there are less resources and too many people. Cutting down the population by half not only reduces the waste and corruption humans bring to Earth but also leaves way more resources for everyone... which means dirt cheap food/gas/resources. More jobs... more everything.

People who say JUST ADD MORE are only making the same problem on a bigger scale. We can't see the stars at night anymore thanks to air pollution that humans made. We've completely ruined the oceans by dumping garbage into it. Sooner or later the Earth needs to be balanced out or we're gonna ruin it more than we already have. The problem is humans so the solution is less humans.

Humanity used to evolve because of natural selection but now we are encouraging laziness and sickliness so we stopped evolving and passing on traits that would make people stronger. So many people have depression or are miserable because they are born into a world of competition and getting a job you are actually happy with and providing a good life for their family without living paycheck to paycheck... is exceedingly rare. You wake up you work you go to sleep. That's the epitome of living to people these days. People don't think about the burden of bringing a new life into the world and if they can insure it's happiness. Instead of adopting kids that are already in a shitty situation they just keep adding without thinking if that kids life will be set or if they can take care of them.

There are too many people on this planet.

[(Anonymous)]

I am so glad we are graced by the presence of Ebony Maw on F!S.

But really, I can see why he would think what he thinks.

For instance, there IS enough food on Earth. It is just a distribution thing. Killing half the pop, might make people desperate enough to share.

Thanos doesn' t understand sustainability

[(Anonymous)]

Anyone who works in computers understands sustainability better than a half-mad Titan. Resolve the underlying issue. E.g., If you are taking up too much space on your HD, then reduce the amount of space each file requires (e.g., use compression)--that resolves the issue much better than randomly deleting half your files.

Thanos is an idiot. He should have solved human physical requirements--made us not need food to survive (how about making it so we subsist on light?) Not just eliminated half, when humans will replicate themselves back up to high numbers in no time.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, I just thought he looked dumb and his emotional/ethical baggage was laid on too thick to take seriously. And his standpoint might be compelling for like a comic book targeted at preteens, but since it doesn't logically make much sense as a reasonable course of action for someone with unlimited godlike powers who is concerned about lack of resources in largely populated areas to take...he was kinda meh.

[(Anonymous)]

Look at it from the deer angle.

We've wiped out most of their large predators in certain parts of the world. If they aren't culled yearly, they end up exhausting their food source and dying horrible, slow painful deaths of starvation.

If a certain number are culled, as they should be when they have predators (wolves, big cats, etc) the weak are removed from the 'system', the stronger ones survive and they don't have to face so much competition over resources.

That's pretty much Thanos's thinking, except with people. Fewer people, less competition. It's not nuanced, it's very black and white thinking, and the fact that he's treating intelligent beings the universe/galaxy/whichever over in the same terms we consider livestock (for their own good)... it says a lot about him being a crazy bastard.

Which ... y'know, there's sort of a clue to that part of his nature in his sobriquet.

[(Anonymous)]

I thought what made him effective was not that he is arguably correct (he's not), but that he is so SURE of his goals, his plan, and his reasons, and that makes him very driven and therefore more scary than if he just wanted power for the sake of power or to collect the stones for bragging rights or whatever. Being sad about it isn't anymore nuanced than a villain whose motivation is revenge because someone they loved died. It's the personal drive that's interesting to me.

[philstar22]

Can't he be all those things. Yes, he's crazy. Yes, his plan is stupid. He's so focused on this one idea he hasn't thought of other things he can do with those infinity stones. But he's still nuanced and complicated.

[nightscale]

Honestly before he had the gauntlet I want to know how he even knew he was killing off 'half a planet', did he individually count them up before murdering them? Because with how we saw Gamora's people fighting back I find it hard to believe that he actually got the exact numbers right while they were resisting.

Also that's a lot of people to murder if their planets are even half as populated as ours, so how long would it have taken him to even do this effectively?

All around that part of his story reaaaaaally falls to pieces if you scratch at it too hard.

And yeah I agree with the general sentiment that when you have an all-powerful gauntlet that you can do anything with, why not make sure the people have the resources they need? Fix the biospheres of the planets? Replenish the wildlife? Like it can do whatever the hell you want so there are no limits.

[supermanda]

I love this secret lol. I couldn't agree more.

[kaffy_r]

I think he's both sympathetic, nuanced, and fucking stupid for all the reasons OP gives and more. It's not an either/or.

[(Anonymous)]

Thanos's stupid plan isn't what makes him interesting.

It's the fact that he's so convinced he's some sort of Tragic Genius who's the only one brave enough to do What Must Be Done(the capitals are very important here), yet is objectively completely bonkers and an imbecile making the dumbest decisions, and accepting the consequences as Manpain instead of doing something actually intelligent with what he can do.

That's what's interesting about Thanos.

His plan is still really fucking stupid though.

[(Anonymous)]

Maaaaaaybe he’s like a metaphor... for people in control of a fuckton of power who also have incredibly dumb ideas about how things should be done. They totally have the capability and support and singleminded disposition to see their stupid, stupid plans through, and it absolutely wrecks everyone else’s day.

You know, people like that.

[(Anonymous)]

A person can be evil and dumb, complex and wrong, having the right idea but the wrong approach.

Even the most brilliant people can have blind spots.

[tabaqui]

Totally agree. Stupid plan, stupid villain. Don't care if he's sad - it's stupid. You get handed all the power in the universe (or, rather - you kill tons of people for all the power in the universe) and all you do is...kill more people. Blech.

Plus, he's insane and surrounded by people who reinforce his insanity and kow-tow to him, so....

*sigh*

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that his plan was stupid, but I feel like that was...kind of the point?

Like it sets him up in opposition to the heroes; Thanos is utterly convinced that "my way is the only way to solve this problem" that he won't even consider other options, whereas the heroes continually say "no, there HAS to be a better way to solve this problem that doesn't involve sacrificing lives".

I feel like getting bogged down in the actual feasibility of his plan is beside the point, really.

Also, I'm not entirely convinced the Infinity Gauntlet had the power to change reality to the degree that everyone has enough resources. Granted, the MCU did a piss-poor job of establishing the power of the Infinity Stones, but "merely" killing off half the universe completely destroyed the gauntlet. So IDK if it was actually capable of rewriting reality to the degree that the countless species of sentient life throughout the ENTIRE UNIVERSE had the all the resources (food, shelter, living space, etc) they need to survive.

[(Anonymous)]

PREACH. I can't even with all these "he's complex and has reasons for doing stuff" arguments that keep cropping up in film reviews. The movie never showed me well enough why he is so emotionally invested in this idea of "saving" the universe by killing half of its population - there is no indication that he cares about people in any way or has any ethical qualms about anything, so why....?

[(Anonymous)]

I intellectually understand there are...not so intellectual viewers who think Thanos had anything even close to approaching "a point," and there are viewers on the sociopath scale who think he's cool, but...is that a Real Opinion? I only ever had communications with fans and mundanes who thought he was nuts.

That said, you are right in that the movie spent way too much time on a villain who was bananas without stating more clearly just how bananas he was -- that was The Worst. (I like Loki, for example, because the narrative is explicit about him being The Bad Guy in earlier movies.)