[ SECRET POST #876 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #876 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 21 pages, 518 secrets from Secret Submission Post #126.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 2 3 4 - not!secrets ], [ 1 2 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Believing something is a sin does not mean that you believe the people who do it should/will go to Hell.

Passerby Christian here wants to point out that, at least as far as I can tell, every one on the entire planet has sinned before and will do so again. I can't speak for the OP, but at least for me, believing something is wrong does NOT equate to judging the people who do it.

I think Christianity is misrepresented by a few loud and angry people. Jesus preached love and forgiveness (he spent a lot of time hanging out with prostitutes, tax collectors, and other people who were considered grievous sinners) and made a point of telling us all to look past the sins of others. God doesn't want anyone to suffer for eternity, and is willing to overlook a lot of sins in anyone who asks for forgiveness.

[(Anonymous)]

Ah, so they just have to feel really very sorry and possibly guilty about loving one another.

Well, glad we got that cleared up.

[angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com]

To be fair, we also have to feel really very sorry and guilty about Eve eating a piece of fruit, so it's not like it's JUST people with "alternative lifstyles" or whatever the fuck it's referred to nowadays.

[archerstar.livejournal.com]

THIS. I'm a Catholic, and that little corner of belief always got to me. Why am I feeling horribly guilty for Eve eating some fruit thousands of years ago and why am I not getting into Heaven if I haven't had it Baptized away?

[(Anonymous)]

Believing that homosexuality is a sin is also not the same as believing that loving someone (regardless of sex) is a sin.

It's not the love that there's any question about the morality of. It's the sex.

[(Anonymous)]

And... why is gay sex immoral, exactly?

I mean... I'm sure God has a sound, logical reason for this.

[mikutsuki.livejournal.com]

Oh come on.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm sure that makes everyone feel a whole lot better.

[kribban.livejournal.com]

THIS.

[angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com]

Lol, but they only don't get to be tortured for eternity if they accept Jesus as their G-d, right?

*Has perhaps been preached on by too many angry Christians*

On another note, anon, good on you for standing up for the NICE side of Christianity. I have mad love for the turn-the-other-cheek flavour Christians. You guys make the religion worth existing. <3

[(Anonymous)]

Why, because you can slap them?

[angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com]

Well, there is that. :P

[(Anonymous)]

As far as I can tell (and my knowledge of Scripture's a bit rusty, so I dunno how much of this is actually biblical), the reason Hell is considered so awful is because God isn't there. I think society has a bit of warped perception on that one, actually. Hell is just where the people who don't want to spend their eternity with God go. It's a choice to be made.

Beyond which (and this is just me talking, I'm pretty sure it's not addressed in the Bible) I don't think it's even possible to fully make that choice until death. As human beings, we have a limited understanding of God and the world. It's only when we die that we become capable of understand God and what he is - and how can you truly accept or reject someone you don't yet truly know? So I don't think anyone can end up in Hell solely based on their actions on Earth, unless, even in the face of truth, knowing the full extent of what they did in their life, they do not regret doing things they now fully recognize as wrong.

I apologize if this makes little sense, I don't think I've really tried to explain my perception of this all before ^^

[angelofcaffeine.livejournal.com]

Why would anyone choose to go to Hell after death once we know there's a Heaven? Well, not including masochists, of course.

I see your point and I think it's a good way to think about it, but it's not particularly Scriptural.

Not that Hell is Scriptural either *coughspluttershutsup*.

[sensualcoco.livejournal.com]

See I've always understood Heaven and Hell as being during this lifetime.

Believing and trusting in God can give you a piece of mind, a purpose on this planet, in a way Heaven.

Whereas if you reject the idea of God or something greater than yourself it can make you feel empty.

But I take everything pretty metaphorically and can't fathom a life after death.

[bleed-peroxide.livejournal.com]

Hell is actually describe as fiery place in the Buybull.

Beware of horribly-designed but lulzy webpage (http://www.fillthevoid.org/Christian/Hell/HellBiblicaldescription.html)
Biased site. (http://www.therefinersfire.org/hell.htm)
"When Hell Happens" makes it sound like getting your first car or some other milestone. (http://www.hellhappens.com/description-of-hell.htm)

[snowyalyeska.livejournal.com]

They're the best kind of Christian.
I need more of them here.

[kribban.livejournal.com]

Well, from what I remember, there is not much talk about hell. More like, you don't get eternal life, (ie being dead.) I think the fire and brimstone hell is a later concept. /Not a scholar.

[zealmightyspork.livejournal.com]

I don't care whether or not you judge homosexuals and believe they should go to hell; if you think homosexuality, two consenting individuals who just happen to share the same genitalia loving eachother, is a sin, something wrong that you need to pray for forgiveness for, I think you need to go diaf yesterday.

Pissy comment is pissy and judgmental. I don't give a shit.

[letmypidgeonsgo.livejournal.com]

*agrees with pissy comment* heh

[radicallindsay.livejournal.com]

IA

:)

[toshi-hakari.livejournal.com]

Icon + comment = <3

XDDDD That being said, I absolutely agree :)

[thene]

No, no, believing that someone's sexual orientation is wrong is judging them. It's like saying it's wrong to write with your left hand instead of your right one, but you don't JUDGE left-handed people, you just judge everything they do with their hands.

/not asking for forgiveness for kissing girls, ffs.

[snowyalyeska.livejournal.com]

I think Christianity is misrepresented by a few loud and angry people.

You have no idea how right you are. I live around those loud and angry people. I can't count how many times I've been told "all faggots should die" and that I'm a "fag" and "queer" lover.
I have nothing against Christians.
It's the hateful Christians (or people of any other religion, actually) I can't stand for.

[sensualcoco.livejournal.com]

I had those idiots up at my college 'exercising their right to hate free speech.' I pretty much *facepalmed* all day. My christian friends were disgusted too.