[ SECRET POST #092 ]

[grayout.livejournal.com]

⌈ Secret Post #092 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 03 pages, 61 secrets from Secret Submission Post #014.
Secrets Not Posted: 0 broken links, 0 not!secrets, 0 not!fandom.
Next Secret Post: Tomorrow, Sunday, April 8th, 2007.
Current Secret Submission Post: Here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[grayout.livejournal.com]

4. You're probably going to be flamed for this, but I'll step in first and say that to a certain extent, I agree, and I'm a bisexual guy myself. I love slash, I love yaoi, but stereotypical flaming gay guys really turn me off (in a romantic sense I mean. Friends are great).

If it's something completely unrelated or a personal issue or something, then uh, I'm sorry you feel that way. D:

[ironjill.livejournal.com]

Honestly? I'm with you. Flaming gays really grate at my nerves. I feel like they're trying to beg for attention because they're gay. I had a friend who came out as gay, and I can barely stand him because of the...flamboyant; attention-begging nature that he has...When he came out, he suddenly had to be feminine and all this rot and it was absolutely ridiculous. ._.

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

Well, some people can't help their personalities. Ever think you're falling victim to Fundamental Attribution Error concerning your friend? He's not hurting anyone, and sometimes people feel so alienated as a societal minority that they automatically attach themselves to stereotypes presented on TV. I'm pretty sure every kid from the ghetto that happens to act tough and angry and bitter and materialistic and violent wasn't born that way, it's just the way they identify with what's already judged upon them.

I think people need to up their tolerance levels but :P that's just me.

[ironjill.livejournal.com]

I just don't see why people need to suddenly change because they decide their sexuality. He's still my friend, and I love him to death, but I hate that he changed himself because he wanted to fit into the gay scene. The same with kids from the ghetto.

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

It has nothing to do with sexuality, that's what you're blind to. What about black kids who start wearing bling and baggy clothes and get involved in violence because they grew up in a violent area? It's called human imprinting of a community, and you are all attributing your cognitive biases to someone's disposition rather than their circumstances, and that's lame.

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

Agh, let me rephrase that. I'm not angry at you, you can have your opinion. It's just saying you hate gay people, or that you agree with that secret to an extent just because someone is acting campy? Perhaps you need to watch your words, because I don't think he'd like hearing that very much :\ But I didn't mean to attack you or patronize you.

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

*gasp!* You mean, gay people are people, too? They're....just like regular people except they like the same gender? NONSENSE.

/jk ♥

They are suspectable to the same flaws and strengths as anyone has, rofl

[vaultedthewall.livejournal.com]

...

I want to have your little robot children. Have I ever mentioned that?

[grayout.livejournal.com]

*dies* Yeah, I know what you mean. When people are all, what, you're bi? They expect me to be like, all oooh fashion and lispy and like whee feminine stuff and I'm like uhh, please don't hug me or ask me about showtunes or something... Not that it's bad for someone to be that way! Just like, it's not for me, and it gets annoying that people start expecting that.

Thing is, from what I hear (from guys I know that actually are active in the gay scene unlike me), there's a lot of pressure to be that way just to fit in (seriously, one guy made me like, help him practice his lisp and I was like wait why do you WANT to do this?). I don't know, I kind of just try to avoid all scenes. >>"

[ironjill.livejournal.com]

That's what I don't understand! That suddenly you have to change, or that one's whole world-view should be different because of your sexuality...

[grayout.livejournal.com]

Honestly, I don't, either. But then I'm not either straight or gay and I've never like, taken either side. I kinda just went ... huh, okay, I like people, who cares what gender they are... and went on with my life exactly the same as before.

Maybe I'm weird?

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

Yeah I know I thought it was pretty gay too rofl

[ironjill.livejournal.com]

Sorry? I think I could have worded it better, honestly. I just absolutely hate stereotyping, and I feel bad for people who decide to fall into a stereotype to fit in. The same with any stereotype.

[(Anonymous)]

Read the secret again, fuckwad.

They are a BNF in fandom KNOWN for their YAOI and SLASH and they hate gays.

Not gay stereotypes. Gays. Yet their 'popularity' hinges on the very thing they write about. And HATE.

[grayout.livejournal.com]

Wait, why? I think she meant she was annoyed with how her friend completely changed... isn't that sort of understandable? The fact that she thinks it's attention-seeking, well, that's personal opinion, but like, say one of your friends suddenly were all, "I'm gay!" and did a 180, you'd kinda be like... wut?

[ew-younerd.livejournal.com]

It has nothing to do with disagreeing with her being angry about her friend changing; it's to the extent of what she's attributing it to.

That way, it's justifiable to get angry whenever anyone fits in to a community.

Hate your friend when they start talking about Naruto instead of Bleach.

Hate your friend when they start listening to rock and dressing like a rocker rather than pop or whatever.

Please.

[shahni.livejournal.com]

I completely agree. I just can't stand it when lolbeinggay is used as some sort of attention whoring device.

It's not like I hate 'gays' (in the omgumustdie kinda way) but more of the whole 'lollookatmeimgayandsofemmylolz' thing that's annoying.

Then again, I don't read/watch real gay pr0ns either. I'll take my fantasies like clean and pretty fantasies thank you. ♥

[ironjill.livejournal.com]

Yeah...exactly. I mean, I can't hate anyone...I don't think I have the bones in my body...but its that attitude that just really gets to me.

[kuni-izumi.livejournal.com]

You're so elegant all the time. You could make a fortune bottling and selling that class.

[x-of-greene-x.livejournal.com]

I kinda know how you feel, but I'm inclined to think it's a phase. Like, my friend came out and did the exact same thing and I was kind of annoyed so he thought I was unsupportive. Whycan'tpeopleunderstandT_T

[longlongwaytogo.livejournal.com]

There's a difference between hating 'flaming gays' which is hating a *personality type*, (it's like me saying I hate bimboes) and hating 'gays' in general.