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where was that picture taken? i need to know so i can nod knowingly and say "well that certainly figures"
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Saying someone is being ableist for using the word stupid is, frankly... stupid.
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(Anonymous) 2012-02-21 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)Or "crazy". I'm mentally ill and I can't see the damn point of policing every time the word is used. If someone's trying to insult mentally ill people, they can do it with only the "correct" words. If someone's saying something neutral or actually affirming, why does it matter if they're being a little coarse?
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Also, stupid. Stupid works, for me. I like the word, it has a kind of flow to it.
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Yep. Still freaks me out a bit...
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(Anonymous) 2012-02-21 11:34 pm (UTC)(link)"No, please do breathe. As deeply as possible, if you like. It allows our souls to possess you."
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(Anonymous) 2012-02-22 12:52 am (UTC)(link)Ironically, I hurt my own eyes immediately afterwards because I rolled them so hard.
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the other day i got jumped on for saying something was "pretty lame." then, more recently, someone called me a "crazy SJW" just for correcting someone's improper use of the word "transgender."
both sides need to stop tbh
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jfc my parents suck for telling me all this stupid shit as kid. I will hold my breath for them out of respect for the successful trolliness though.
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(Anonymous) 2012-02-22 03:58 am (UTC)(link)On the other hand, I'm frustrated by the self-appointed SJ language police's attempts to strip useful metaphor from the English language.
I walk with a limp and am mentally ill, among other things, and I do not object to "lame" or "crazy" used in the metaphorical sense. I object to being described as "lame" or "crazy." I do not object to a fictional character being described as "crazy," because by definition, they are unable to take offense.
The point of all this is how we treat each other, and I think the most obnoxious fandom SJers are losing sight of that.
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But when it gets to the point where you're telling people who actually are in that group how they're allowed to feel, I draw the line. And that's all I see most of the hardcore people doing, nowadays.
I especially don't like it when they go around telling people who haven't made their sexuality obvious that if they're straight they should shut up. I'm bisexual, in a relationship with a person of the same gender as me, and I don't want straight people to shut up. I think everyone needs to have a place in the dialogue about sexuality for anything to get better--straight people should realize that there are probably things they're not aware of because they're straight, but they don't have to NEVER HAVE AN OPINION EVER or NEVER EXPRESS IT if they do. They just need to realize that they a queer person will probably have a more informed perspective than they do on the issues, and that they should take that into account--and half the time when it's someone they're telling to shut up, they have the same perspective that I do, and I'm not straight. Oftentimes, the people telling them to shut up are the straight ones!
Ditto for trans issues, although it bothers me less because people in general still need to be way more aware of those than they generally are. Everyone has a place in the dialogue about gender issues. Everyone.
As a queer, non-cisgendered human being... STOP IT. It's great that you feel that way, but STOP TELLING EVERYONE ELSE THAT THEY HAVE TO.
WE DON'T FUCKING NEED YOU TO SPEAK FOR US.
Let us speak for ourselves. Those of us who agree with you will agree. Those of us who disagree are not self-hating carriers of internalized bigotry--we're just different.
Isn't being different supposed to be okay?
ETA: ...WOW THAT WAS RANTIER THAN IT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE oops.
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Increasingly, though, I think SJWs need to be hit with that, too. Like, there are literally HUNDREDS of English dialects and cultures which speak English around the world. Are you going to account for all of them? "Nigger" has a very derogatory history, yet I've heard it used as a neutral or positive term just as much as a negative one. I can have the exact same friend in the exact same situation call me "bitch" in two different voices/tones, and one will be an insult and the other a compliment. Meanwhile, will I have to stop using the word "white" because for most of my life people telling me I'm "acting white" or "turning into a white girl" was an insult? Or will I have to stop using the word "Caucasian", the politically correct term for people people, because that ethnicity is used as an insult? Oddly enough, I'm pretty sure if I explain these life experiences to the vast majority of SJWs, they aren't going to start treating "white girl!" as an insult that should never be repeated and instead insist people use the term "very young Caucasian female" (though on that note, it's really not that hard to use politically correct terminology to insult someone utilizing race/sex/gender/orientation/ethnicity/religion/ability/ect.)
Like, seriously SJWs, I get the whole principle about how I can't use something with a bad history just because I've heard it in a good context in my life, but how come that principle doesn't apply to you? Why are YOUR life experiences accounting for everyone else's language use if mine can't?
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