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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-05-13 03:49 pm

[ SECRET POST #1958 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1958 ⌋

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[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
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[identity profile] vampirelupus.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 07:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeahh, I am not sure what movie people are watching if they found her boring/useless, because it wasn't the same Avengers I saw. Especially the way she played Loki, damn.

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[identity profile] helenadax.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I think she was awesome. And it takes more courage to fight those evil guys when you don't have super powers. Plus, her scene with Loki was amazing.

[identity profile] loracarol.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Avengers!Natasha was amazing. (I haven't seen Iron Man 2 yet).

Seriously, the way that she just plays people... So cool. I loved it, so much. :D

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[identity profile] writerserenyty.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Yessss. I just saw Avengers yesterday and I loved her, especially with her badass outsmarting of Loki.

I want a Black Widow movie so bad!!

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
This movie is rapidly convincing me that everyone is sexist.

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[identity profile] amanuensis1.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I think her exhausted little, "Yeah. It'll be fun," as she's preparing to wrest control of an alien bike was the moment I fell in love with her character, and I only wonder what the hell took me so long.

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[identity profile] vivalana.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
She was my favorite, and I've always been a Thor pusher.

[identity profile] visitingparis.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeees. I could not believe how much her characterization had improved from IM2. She was flawless as far as I'm concerned.

[identity profile] masterfedora.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:28 pm (UTC)(link)
What the hell movie were they watching? Black Widow was, is, and will always be freaking awesome. She was an excellent part of the team. Boring? Nobody in that movie was boring.

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[identity profile] spud14.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:31 pm (UTC)(link)
I LOVE Natasha, and I think some of her lines were ooc (Joss: THIS IS FUNNY, I GUESS NATASHA CAN SAY IT.) and I think she was also underutilized, but this doesn't make her boring or useless. I think some of the problem is that there needed to be a Black Widow movie before the Avengers, but w/e.

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[personal profile] radian 2012-05-13 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
WHAT MOVIE WERE THOSE PEOPLE WATCHING?

There were many things I loved about the Avengers and Black Widow being badass was very high up on my list.

[identity profile] sparklywalls.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
What film are these people watching? I must say I've yet to see anything negative about her but maybe I'm just lucky. Anyway, she manages to out-manipulate Loki, she holds her own in a fight and she has just about the right amount of vulnerability to still be human. How is that boring?

[identity profile] mollywobbles867.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:40 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG I freaking loved her. I saw it yesterday with my mom and she was my favorite!

[identity profile] copperiisulfate.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
luckily i haven't come across a single person who has felt that way and everywhere i go, there's a lot of (well deserved) love for her. admittedly i wasn't really sure what to expect from her but she blew me away.

[identity profile] intrigueing.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 09:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Maybe not the single best part of the movie, but she made me so happy when I watched it. Yeah, Joss usually does good with female characters, but I was still a little worried she'd be a bore who just helped kick the bad guys around and didn't do anything else. She was damn awesome and definitely not just one of those tedious quota-filling token female characters that often pop up in action movies and don't actually do anything. She had her own unique backstory and set of the character traits and skills just like all the other characters. So while I was a little disappointed at the scarcity of female characters, the combination of having the characters they could work with being restricted by the source material and the general awesomeness of Natasha stopped me from caring too much.

Honestly, I much prefer one awesome female member like Natasha than two female members who felt like they were squeezed into the plot just because they were female. Natasha's character had a purpose to the story way beyond being female -- her actually, demonstrably useful spy experience (not the infuriating old "she's awesome even though we don't ever show it" spiel), her cynicism/world-weariness, and her Heel Face Turn/redemption-seeking backstory. Plus her feats were just as epic as Cap and Hawkeye's in the final battle. So yeah, people who say she was useless either are just moronic haters who can't see what's in front of their nose, or are trying to whine because they expected a character who only had a minor role in the previous movies and the source comics to like, have as big a role as Tony.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Anyone who hijacks an alien speeder by killing the driver and steering with their dead body is pretty fucking awesome in my books

[identity profile] ooh-mrdarcy.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 09:17 pm (UTC)(link)
She and Hulk totally blew me away.
My friend who watched the movie with me said she found BW annoying - but she admitted she was only jealous about Hawkeye (she's a major fangirl), so I wouldn't take her seriously.

I went to see the movie for Thor and Loki, but I think Black Widow totally stole the show. Seriously, she was the most competent hero in the entire team. Get Loki to fess up his plans? Check. (Why hello, how awesome are you that you get the truth out of the liesmith?) Save Hawkeye? Check. Don't have superpowers or a power-suit, so come up with something else? Check. Figure out how to close up the portal? Check.

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[personal profile] have_no_mercy 2012-05-13 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I thought she was boring and useless in IM2, but I was very pleasantly surprised by how much improved her usage was in Avengers.

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[identity profile] lydzi.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 09:27 pm (UTC)(link)
She was the best part of the movie at least to me. Her and Hawkeye.

[identity profile] hunterwithcause.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 09:41 pm (UTC)(link)
WHAT MOVIE DID THOSE PEOPLE WATCH?

I literally just came home from watching the movie, and the first thing I did was go online and order some of her titles. She was that awesome in the movie.

[identity profile] fail-cookie.livejournal.com 2012-05-13 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I just got back from seeing the avengers and I have to say Natasha is one of the best female representations I've seen in an otherwise dude-oriented movie.

Seriously, playing loki, taking on brainwashed!Clint, closing the gate, generally kicking SO much ass and taking names without male assistance aside from a bit of ~teamwork? All without using 'feminine wiles' too? So much win. She might not have a BIG personality, but she was subtle, deadpan and headstrong, and I loved the bits of vulnerabilty and fear we saw in her when Bruce began to change whilst she was trapped.

Idk I just loved her more as the movie went on and it makes me sad anyone would label her useless when she was genuinely such a key part of the team, which makes her being just a human all the more impressive.

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(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Honestly, I expected to find her boring at best, obnoxious at worst. Not because of the character, but because I don't think Scarlett Johansson can act. Like, at all.

And even though she still isn't a very good actor, I was pleasantly surprised by the performance that Whedon was able to get out of her. That + her being written well and having actual stuff to do = me being happy that she was part of the team.

I'm still not sure if she could carry her own movie (acting-wise), but if a Black Widow movie existed I would totally go see it.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 10:00 pm (UTC)(link)
People say that? She was amazing. And I'm saying that as someone who can't stand the actress and finds her annoying in pretty much every other role I've ever seen her in, but she was perfect as Black Widow.

(Anonymous) 2012-05-13 10:12 pm (UTC)(link)
LMAO WHAT. I call booty blindness. She was worthless!

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