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[ SECRET POST #2726 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2726 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Naruto]


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[Transformers: Prime]


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05. http://i.imgur.com/dkPX9Ym.gif
[moving .gif, Steven Ogg, Grand Theft Auto V]


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07. [SPOILERS for Murder in the First]



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08. [SPOILERS for Game of Thrones]



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09. [WARNING for rape]



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10. [WARNING for rape]



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11. [WARNING for rape, abuse, etc]



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12. [WARNING for rape, abuse, pedophilia, incest, ironically enough none of which OP warned for]



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13. [WARNING for eating disorders]



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14. [WARNING for suicide]



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15. [WARNING for sexual abuse]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #389.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 1 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ], [ 1 - ships it ].
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Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
No it doesn't? Demisexuals are only want to fuck people they know (you know like the majority of the population). It doesn't define what type they are attracted to.

honestly, demisexuality started as a joke on an RPG board by a teenager. And it just comes off as being very slut-shamey. "Oh we don't have sex unless we KNOW people. Not like you people who will just fuck any warm body you can find."

Re: Sexuality v. Sexual Orientation

(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:00 am (UTC)(link)
If that's how you read it, then that's on you. Because the label isn't about YOU, and it takes a special kind of narcissism to act like it is.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
Like I said, make up wahtever label you want for yourself. But don't act like you are oppressed or belong on the LBGT spectrum.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:09 am (UTC)(link)
Oppressed? No. Lonely and side-eyed for not ogling "hot people"? Yes. And I think that's probably what a good portion of the people you say are crying about being oppressed are talking about, you just can't get your head out of your ass long enough to see it.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
Who the hell gets lonely and side-eyed for not ogling 'hot people'

I am honestly curious about this experience that is apparently common where people are mocked for not enjoying hot bods or something

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Lonely and side-eyed for not ogling "hot people"?


aaaaaand there's the slut-shaming

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-21 01:19 am (UTC)(link)
er

the whole point of demisexuality is that you don't experience sexual attraction towards someone unless you know them well. doesn't mean you want to fuck them. I'm straight but I don't want to fuck every guy I'm attracted to. (I can count the number of dudes I've actually actively wanted to sleep with on one finger)

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 03:06 am (UTC)(link)
The whole point of demisexuality is that you're basically normal. Of course not everyone wants to have sex with everyone, even within their "preference." I don't really see anything queer about not being attracted to strangers, and taking a little bit of time to get to know someone before you really develop sexual feelings for them.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-21 03:18 am (UTC)(link)
I don't disagree with any of that, anon. I'm talking about something slightly different/more specific: the idea that being attracted to a group of people =/= wanting to fuck that group or someone in that group. Sexual attraction =/= actual desire to sleep with someone.

And in case my last bit was confusing to you - I didn't really think about it this way at the time but I can see how it could come across that way - I don't identify as demisexual at all, I'm just pointing out that the attraction I've experienced to men - quite a few, overall - rarely means I actually would like to sleep with them. Even if it's still sexual attraction.

tl;dr to clarify what I meant: even if you are self-identified as demisexual, you can still be attracted to someone and not want to sleep with them
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(Anonymous) 2014-06-23 10:50 pm (UTC)(link)
No it isn't.

The whole idea of demisexuality is that you're essentially asexual until you stumble into a close relationship with someone compatible and you're suddenly like "Wait, what is going on? What are these feelings??" because you never experienced budding sexuality during puberty like most people do.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
I don't even know what you're trying to say.

That's normal. The vast majority of people feel exactly that way.

"Demisexuality" might as well be "standard human sexuality."

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 05:34 am (UTC)(link)
So I'm a weirdo for being able to look at strangers or celebrities I've never met and think they're hot? Because I thought that was what was normal. I thought "standard human sexuality" involved sexual attraction being influenced by physical appearance. But I guess I'm the special snowflake now for finding people's appearances sexy whether or not I'm acquainted with them, huh?
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2014-06-21 12:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with you anon. I worded my comment badly and it seems I conveyed the wrong point. See my response to anon above you.
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[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-06-21 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
The slut-shamey part has been my problem with many who say they are "demi" "omni" or "pan" sexual (which don't two of those mean 'attracted to non-human species? Which we really don't HAVE any sentient non-human species as of this point???).

Then again, the assholes I've known who claimed demi were....well, assholes. Maybe it's not that way for everyone, but it is hard for me to not roll my eyes when someone says "I only sleep with people I love! I'm only ATTRACTED to people I KNOW!", because THAT'S AN EXTREMELY, EXTREMELY COMMON human experience across ALL sexualities. So much that it doesn't seem like it needs its own "label".
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[personal profile] vethica 2014-06-21 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Pansexual doesn't mean attracted to non-humans, though?
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[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-06-21 01:55 am (UTC)(link)

I think "pan"sexual means attracted to all genders, which includes transpeople and genderfluid people. I think. I've also heard pansexual used interchangeably with demisexual, which is confusing as well.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
How are those people non-human tho??

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
No seriously, you're calling non-binary people inhuman?

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
You hit the nail on the head. The biggest problems many people have with demisexuality are:

A) the slutshaming, which does unfortunately crop up in the asexual community

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B) the tendency to claim "oppression" for being demisexual, which is no.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 01:55 am (UTC)(link)
I think omni- and pan- are used pretty interchangeably to include transmen and transwomen into their spectrum. Especially if the subject in question in pre-op. Because we can talk all we want about being the gender we say we are, that doesn't mean people attracted to that gender necessarily like bits belonging to the nonmatching sex.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
But doesn't bi already cover that? I mean, if you're attracted to men and women already, then I don't see how what particular parts they have would change anything.

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(Anonymous) 2014-06-21 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
I could see that maybe for transwomen, but, purely sexually-speaking well...a constructed penis is not the same as a cis penis. And a strap-on really isn't. And from an emotional standpoint, there's generally some perfectly understandable baggage that comes with dating a trans person, and some people just don't want to deal with that. And that's not a slight on anyone, it's just that we all have hangups.

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[identity profile] mimi-sardinia.livejournal.com 2014-06-21 01:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Actually we have plenty of sentient non-human species. What we don't have is sapient non-human species.

I should go bitch about that in the word usage thread.
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[personal profile] quirkytizzy 2014-06-21 01:37 pm (UTC)(link)

What is the difference? I'm actually discussing this in another place, and I think you're right, but I don't know the difference.

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