[ SECRET POST #2769 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2769 ⌋

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[fscom]

08. http://i.imgur.com/pJ49rmz.jpg

[blitzwing]

Because headcanoning a fictional character as trans is making! a! difference!!!111

If someone out there thinks that a character from an obscure Japanese video game isn't trans, how ever can we defeat cissexism?

[(Anonymous)]

I like to think of characters as trans because it makes me feel good to imagine people like myself in regular adventure stories.

[(Anonymous)]

Haha, I like this response. Tumblr in a nutshell.

[(Anonymous)]

Where are all you people frequenting that these are the prominent attitudes? Most of what I see is "I like to think that character x is this." And then they get a bunch of responses telling them how terrible or wrong their headcanons is because the story hasn't mentioned it outright, and also accusing them of shoving opinions down their throats. At worst some of them will make jokes in response.

Real people?!

[(Anonymous)]

Real people. Wow. Just... wow.

I guess it's not actually any stranger than imagining them having sex, but I've had time to get used to that.

[(Anonymous)]

Are there actually people out there headcanoning celebrities as trans?
Scratch that, are there people out there making headcanons about celebrities, period?

I mean I'm aware RPF exists, and I'm not personally very keen on it, but making up headcanons seems really really weird when real people are involved.

With fictional characters, though, I feel that if people want to project onto characters who speak to them on some level, it's no skin off my nose. Unless of course they're the kind of idiots who start internet fights because someone else doesn't have that same interpretation.

[(Anonymous)]

lmao there are people who headcanon angelina jolie and brad pitt's little 7 or 8 year old daughter as trans

[kallanda_lee]

Applying it to real people (if they have not explicitly come out and said it) is very creepy to me too. I also hate the "you're trans-phobic if you don't accept this headcanon. Yeah, no, it's cool that's your fantasy and all, but the rest of us don't have to see it that way.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, this. Headcanons are just those, headcanons.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing wrong with headcanons. But yeah, the way it's gone about based on analyzing and "evidences" weirds me out. Especially when it goes far from 'headcanon' and into "THIS IS A FACT."

[(Anonymous)]

It creeps me out because I have never seen it done in a way that doesn't reek of either fetishizing or gender essentialism or sometimes both.

The characters who get headcanoned as trans are always, ALWAYS the boyish girls or the girly guys, which is essentially implying that if you don't fit into the typical gender presentation for your sex, you MUST be trans. That's a pretty backwards line of thought.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, if someone said, "every boyish girl or girl guy character is trans and you MUST agree with this" then yes that'd imply that. But it's really not strange that ppl may headcanon many characters who fit those patterns as trans, given that many trans people before transitioning also fit that pattern. It gives you somewhere to start with your AU.

[(Anonymous)]

Making up scenarios about real people being trans for shits and giggles? Not cool.

Implying that if someone doesn't agree with your trans headcanon they are transphobic or whatever, and that your headcanon is 100% real just because you'd like it to be? Not cool.

But playing with the idea that a fictional character might be trans and creatively imagining the repercussions of this within their fictional universe? Not a jot wrong with this. Even if you might think a person is doing it to be jump on the tumblr trans bandwagon or to change characters to be more like themselves. And no matter what the source of original canon is. Still nothing wrong with it.

Honestly, someone conflating these three different acts and saying all of it makes them uncomfortable makes me uncomfortable.

[kallanda_lee]

Pretty much this.

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, I have this thought every time I read a thread about trans headcanons. I spend a lot of time on the "SJW" heavy parts of tumblr. I look at tags. I read posts by people I would never follow because they'd drive me crazy. But I almost never see this phenomenon FS claims happens all the time: "This 'female' character likes some 'boy' things, so 'she' MUST really be a boy!" Really, I don't see it. The things people say go more like "What if trans [character]?" or "Trans [character] is so important." The only cases of frequent insistent trans headcanons are for characters who crossdress in canon. I'm aware that doesn't mean "must be trans," either, but all I'm saying is simply having some stereotypical traits of the opposite gender is not at all, as far as I know, a common basis for insisting that someone MUST be trans.

[arcadiaego]

I have never ever seen anyone headcanoning a celebrity as trans. I'm also confused as to why doing it to non-Western media is worse?

I hear the siren call of the trans headcanon wank!

[gondremark]

Headcanoning a character as trans the way Tumblr tends to do it (Bob baked a cake that one time, so clearly Bob, who cearly identifies as a cis man in canon, is a dfab trans demigirl sparklekin who uses goldfish/goldfishs/goldfishself pronouns ouo [insert emoji here]) is ridiculous and horrible and embarrassing and demonstrates a misunderstanding of what trans means (it can also get fetishy and squicky really fast). Usually these headcanons come not from someone's reading of a character, but from a desire to show off and earn brownie points for the fashionable topic of the moment.

That said, I don't take issue at all with well contrived AUs or headcanons that understand characters as trans and that deal with the topic in a reasonable and plausible manner. These headcanons are much less likely to fall apart if they understand the gender that the character presents as in the canon as the person's real gender (what they transitioned to) and don't point to a character who refers to her or himself as one gender and say "nope, Fictional Bob's wrong about his gender and I know better".

An example of a reasonable trans headcanon is thinking of Watson (from Doyle's stories) as a tans man. Since we hear very little about his childhood and never actually meet any of his relatives who would have known him before any social transition and never see him in a state of undress that would give anything away, all this headcanon does is invent a backstory for Watson in place of a backstory that Doyle never gave us. What this headcanon does not try to do is insist that such and such a character is "really" such and such a gender because of certain behaviours or tastes.

short version: some fandoms are insane, tumblr is insane, be careful when interpreting a character as trans that you're not basing this interpretation on gender stereotypes.

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen posts where every single character in a fandom is assigned a non-straight non-cis identity seemingly with no correlation to their actual personality traits or presentation, like some kind of Tumblr Mad Libs. Which... look, I get that non-straight non-white non-cis people have been historically underrepresented in fiction, and it's not a terrible thing to tip the balance back a little. But when your idea of correcting that is 'Character R is a dmab transgender aromantic pansexual who uses xe/xir pronouns; Character W is an intersexed genderqueer demiromantic polysexual polyamorous transboi who packs and binds' and so on over the course of a dozen characters, with no explanation of why you'd see any or all of them that way or why so many people of a very small minority would have come together to solve mysteries/fight monsters/play in a band by pure coincidence... Well, it's kind of hard to take seriously, and I can't help but feel it does their cause no good at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeahhhhh, I'm pretty sick of it as well. My favorite character's tag on tumblr is full of these posts.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah...I don't even do queer headcanons. Or mostly not.

Hijacking someone else's character to "represent" your identity is a really sad form of appropriation.

[(Anonymous)]

What bothers me about it is it's always the girl who happens to have typically masculine interests, or the boy who has typically feminine interests, and never anything else. It reeks of its own kind of transphobia, binarism and sexism.

[nailtek]

Yep, I see this a lot in my current fandom and it tends to make me really, really uncomfortable. Especially the posts that are like "every character is trans. or queer. or something".
The way the labels get arbitrarily thrown on characters that even go remotely against the binary (of which there are quite a few in my fandom) is just really gross to me. It feels it's not being done for the sake of building a more interesting headcanon or backstory but more "well I can't like this character if they're just a plain cishet!!! gotta make them more interesting than that", as if what the character actually -does- in canon isn't enough to make them interesting. IDK.

[(Anonymous)]

Same here OP, gladly never seen it in RPF D: (don't read those so that's why).

Hell, I'm trans and representation is awesome and it's good people are writing about such headcanons. However, it triggers the fuck out of me - it usually centres on stereotypes, anxiety, dysphoria, so on so forth. I'd love a fic where a character was just trans and well ... just that, while plot and character development goes on. Seen a grand total of one. ONE. In Fallout fandom.

Of course, everyone has their own cup of tea, but headcannoning a real person as trans is ... creepy.

[(Anonymous)]

Gendering head canons are annoying as fuck. Not everyone needs to be a special, over-labelled snowflake. Fandom, calm the hell down already.