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A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

How do you not feel hungry all the time?

I want to weigh 110 pounds (loss of about 17 pounds) which for me would be a bmi of 20.1 and used the following site to calculate my calorie needs:

http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/

It gave me 1580 calories a day. So I planned out a diet, making sure to count every last calorie according to the calorie count on boxes. My diet is mostly lean meat/eggs/fish/lentils/rice/fruit/fresh vegetables/yogurt.

But…I feel like I'm starving half the day. It really really sucks. I always feel exhausted and sometimes it's difficult to fall asleep because I'm hungry. When I do fall asleep, I dream about food.

I have no energy and I'm constantly on edge waiting until the next time I can eat. What do you do to combat this? Or are you just hungry all the time?

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[iceyred]

I've found that a lot of the times I think I'm hungry, I'm actually thirsty. Try a big glass of water and see if that helps.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

I have tried that but it only seems to work for about ten minutes.

And I'm not sure if this has happened to you, but do you feel SUPER cold sometimes after drinking? I've actually switched to drinking warm or tepid water because I can't stand cold water.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not a dietician or a diet expert or anything, but I'm not sure that what you're doing makes sense. It seems like (looking through the math there) what you're doing is just trying to set your calorie amount at the necessary daily calorie intake someone at your target weight / height would be using? It probably makes more sense to peg it somewhere between what you need now and what you need at your target weight and then go down from there more gradually. Fucks with your metabolism less, for one thing.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

At my current weight though (127 pounds) my calorie needs are only 1668.9 calories per day. Which is only about 90 calories more than 1580. That's basically a difference of one apple a day. I'm not really sure how to make it more gradual in such a scenario.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

Don't starve yourself. It'll screw with your metabolism and maybe make losing weight harder. 1580 calories a day doesn't seem like a whole lot.
How do you eat your meals? Three times a day? Smaller portions throughout the day?
I would recommend snacking on healthy things in between meals, like veggies.
Have you also thought adding more to your daily diet, and adding exercise to your daily routine?

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

1580 is actually a lot. Don't believe the 2000 daily recommended stuff, it's horribly out of date and does not take individual height and weight differences into account, for women especially.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Don't starve yourself. It'll screw with your metabolism and maybe make losing weight harder.

...are you talking about "starvation mode", because that's.... That's not actually a thing.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

Oh I'm not starving myself.

Breakfast is usually a hamburger or turkey burger or eggs = ~350 calories, with rice = ~400 calories
Lunch is yogurt and 2 apples 310 calories
Dinner is 2 pieces of fish (250 calories) with lentils, fresh lettuce, carrot chips (280 calories)

That comes out to 1580 calories a day.

I have asthma, so I can't really go running but I do go and walk for about an hour most days (burning about 220 calories) so I might treat myself to a snack (like a KitKat bar or cheese and crackers) in the days I do exercise. But it hasn't done much to help with the hunger to be completely honest.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

How the heck are you getting close to 1600 calories a day at 127lb? That's the equivalent of a 150 pound dude.

A 125 pound woman's BMR is like 1300.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT, but at 125lbs, an hour of low-impact aerobics burns about 350 calories. Depending on what OP's day involves, it's really not that hard to increase your caloric needs beyond BMR.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

At 127 pounds, the BMR is 1390.75 calories a day.

But that's just to wake up and SURVIVE. If you actually get out of bed (which I do) you have to look at daily calorie needs which is here: http://www.bmi-calculator.net/bmr-calculator/harris-benedict-equation/

I'm largely sedentary, so I multiply by 1.2 which is 1668.9 calories a day.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

No, I do not feel hungry all the time - though I do eat many, many times a day, a little at a time.

After a disclaimer about different bodies and their different needs, what I can say to you is that you feel hungry all the time because your body is used to a higher caloric intake. Even though your body doesn't actually need all those calories, it thinks it does. When you diet, it misses them and you get hungry. People who have maintained a low (healthy) weight for quite a while have their bodies used to their caloric intake.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

So just tough it out, I guess?

That's my issue because classes have started up and they bring pizza and soda and cookies to seminars and it drives me crazy.

I either spend the entire time fighting down my urge to eat (and completely ignoring the lecture as a result). Or I break and eat and then feel guilty all day.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

That's normal for the first few days, which it sounds like you're going through. It gets better after a week or so after your body adjusts.

This is why so many people fail diets - they start then find out it's hard, and quit before their body can get itself into gear.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

Your BMR is the amount of calories you'd burn if you literally stayed still and did nothing for an entire day. It doesn't take into account the activities of daily life, even if it's just being on your feet at a job, or walking from place to place. All of that demands extra expenditure.

The fact that you're exhausted suggests that the things you're doing during the day are placing more calorific energy demands on you than you're currently allowing yourself.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[herpymcderp]

You should really look at what you're eating. Increasing the protein and fiber content of your diet and replacing refined carbohydrates with starches that metabolize more slowly will help you feel fuller longer.

If you don't already, try drinking tea as an appetite suppressant. The caffeine in coffee might be a little bit much for drinking all day, but the theophylline and paraxanthine in it can act to halt peristalsis and increase fatty acid consumption in the body to make you feel satiated.

Always have a drink with every meal to increase the volume of what's in your stomach.

Also, exercise more. It not only burns calories and builds muscle, but it helps to maintain your insulin and blood glucose levels throughout the day, thereby decreasing your appetite as well.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[tasogare_n_hime]

I have no advice to give, but I wish you luck. I'm trying to lose weight too. I know I'd never stick to a big diet change, so I'm trying to go with cutting down on sugary drinks, and exercise.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[elaminator]

I've lost a lot of weight but I don't think anyone would call me svelte. (Unfortunately, I could lose 15 more pounds and I'm almost certain I would still not have a perfectly flat stomach. It just ain't meant to be.)

Still, I think the main thing is figuring out when to eat (space out meals and snacks in such a way that you aren't starving), drinking lots of water (or whatever) and allowing time for your body to adjust to your new routine. Are you sure you're eating enough? If you are maybe you need to eat something more filling? (More protein, etc.)

Are you eating a snack or two throughout the day? I've been doing that for about two years now, and it helps a lot.

I do still get hungry sometimes, but not much. When I started out I was constantly hungry, but a few months later I didn't think about food so much. I've only recently started eating more (trying to maintain my weight) and now I often feel too full. It just takes time to get used to it, I guess.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[raspberryrain]

You could add more dietary fiber to the mix. Fill up on vegetables, much of the mass of which will largely pass through you?

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

When I actually dieted I wasn't hungry at all. (And this was despite me being way overweight and cutting my calories by a large amount.) I didn't eat that much protein (only a serving a day), but I ate tons of fiber, and that seemed to really help keep me feeling full. So that is what I would recommend. (Granted, it was obviously just my experience!)

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[(Anonymous)]

Eat when you're hungry. Eat slowly, drink water while you do. Pay attention to your body: if it says it's full, stop eating; if it says it's hungry, put some food into it. By denying yourself food when you're hungry, you're creating a starvation cycle which can (more likely than not) lead to you eating more the next time you eat because your body doesn't know when it will be able to get food, next. So it's highly counterproductive. And, as you've noticed, it makes you antsy and distracted. No fun in general, let alone when it's about something like food.

If you're only looking at calories:
Eat just a couple rounds of protein a day.

Spend the rest on low-density foods, like carrots or lettuce, or even celery (which has a negative calorie index -- it takes 10 to process, but only provides 8). This will fill the space in your stomach, while your caloric intake remains low. However, also know that veggies get processed fast, so if you only eat veggies at a meal, you'll likely be hungry again in a couple hours.

Snack on nuts, in moderation: 11 pecans, 12 walnuts, or 15 almonds gives you 33% of your DR fat intake, and are high in protein, and they're super filling. I can usually only eat 5 or 6 at a time, between meals.

Don't waste your time with milk: unless you're getting something enriched with vitamin D or E, or something, it's doing nothing for you -- the calcium in milk only gets absorbed by our bodies until we're about 7y/o.

EXERCISE Don't rely on the food and calorie restriction to get rid of the weight you wanna lose. It's simply not going to work. Hold a plank for 12 seconds twice a day. Do 9 sit-ups, 24 squats, 12 finger-to-toe bends, and dance. Do it all twice a day (i like right when I wake up, and before bed). It'll make a huge difference. Even if that's all you do, it's more than most people, and if you add it on top of your regular routine it's that little bit extra that can help. It's literally like 10-15 minutes of your morning or evening.

Contract and release muscles while you're sitting. Kegels, but in the rest of your body too. Even though you're not necessarily moving, you're still working them, and they will change shape and strength. And burn energy.

Next time, get rid of the calories and the BMI (which is not intended for use regarding "good" body mass, or whatever they're toting it as, these days). Focus, instead, on toning and the kinds of nutrients you need. You can be the skinniest person in the world, but you're not toned, you won't notice that big a difference, esp from something as slight as 17lbs...

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[lunabee34]

When I want to lose weight I do it entirely through exercise (of course, this can only get me so far; I do hit a plateau). I have a good track record of sticking with daily exercise but I have never made a dietary change that I could ultimately live with, didn't backslide on, etc. At this point in my life, I only want to make sustainable changes that I know I can keep up rather than dieting really hard, losing the weight I want to lose, and then seeing it creep back up when I get tired of eating celery and never drinking.

Maybe you could eat more and start exercising?

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[ariakas]

1 - it does depend on what you eat. Protein/fat will make you feel fuller, longer than carbohydrates.

2 - are you sure you're not low-balling your activity level? The other possibility is that you have more muscle than average, which that calculator doesn't take into account and will up your BMR by quite a bit.

But yeah, like someone else said, don't just starve yourself down to that weight. Most of the weight you'll lose will be muscle, and it won't last. Definitely combine that with exercise (and be sure part of that is resistance exercises, not just cardio) to make sure you keep your muscle.

Re: A question to the svelte ladies of F!S

[diet_poison]

How long have you been doing this? When I lost 30 pounds a few years ago I found that I was really, really hungry for a few days or maybe a week or two and then it kinda toned itself down. Your body should adjust (if it doesn't then...that might be a concern).

You could also taper down the amount that you eat - if you currently eat waaay more than 1580 calories, go for a week or two just taking 100 cals out of your daily intake, and then another 100, and so forth until you hit that number. Also, somewhat unrelated, but you also ought to have some flexibility to eat a bit more some days and a bit less others so you can splurge for events, nights out, etc. (this is how Weight Watchers does it, for example).

You can also eat a little more if you add some exercise into your routine.