[ SECRET POST #6539 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6539 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 37 secrets from Secret Submission Post #935.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[case]

Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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01. https://i.imgur.com/58rpXbA.jpeg

[(Anonymous)]

This doesn't surprise me? If people are labeling themselves as "proshippers" first and foremost, as opposed to "people who ship X/Y" who happen to want to be left alone about it, then they're more about fighting antis than the fandom itself.

You're successfully finding what you're looking for, but you may be looking for the wrong thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Can I ask out of curiosity, are these fandoms based on new media, or are they fandoms that have been around a while (idk maybe like 5+ years old)?

I've never really seen any anti v proship stuff in my current fandoms, BUT the fandoms I'm in are pretty old and have fallen out of popularity in recent years - so its probably full of people who don't care enough to argue about it or aren't into fandom hopping maybe? I do notice that people that I've followed from other fandoms, who tend to go rapidly from fandom to fandom; have also mentioned anti v proships.

[feotakahari]

Yeah, I quit following blogs like Just-Antithings because they didn’t seem conducive to enjoying fandom. Olderthannetfic seems okay, at least.

[(Anonymous)]

I never bothered engaging with either side of this whole thing even when it was relatively new, because in my experience nothing good comes of this kind of tribalism where one side is 'good' and the other side is 'bad'. People are people and those with ill intentions are going to be on all sides because some people are just shit heads and want an excuse to blanket accuse an entire group of people of being 'wrong' in some way.

And I frankly just don't have time for that shit and never will. Make what you want, engage with what you want and avoid what you don't like, people talking about why they like/don't like something on their own personal space is not an attack on anyone else or their freedoms, and just generally take a fucking chill pill and calm down.

None of this is serious and shouldn't be taken to the levels where it gets serious.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[(Anonymous)]

Both sides are capable of leaving nasty burn marks, so it's no use engaging with them.

I privately dared to say that I am uncomfortable by father-son incest and shota then I got called a dumb person who goes around talking behind's people's back. All I did was trying to put down bondaries on what I am willing to discuss/interact with YKINMK, but immediately got labeled as anti-leaning and got blocked by half of the gang. Good riddance.

Three months later I am glad I did, because they were harming both my mental health and my enjoyment of fandom.

[(Anonymous)]

This is why I just can't with self-identified proshippers. They always get so defensive when I point out they can be just as toxic behaviorally as antis. Yes, antis are 2x worse, but you can still have the right opinions on fiction and still be toxic and insufferable to people. I always just prefer to say that I'm more anti-antis than proship. I know the mantra is "if you don't believe in harassment you are proship by default", but it's frankly a loaded label and a very recent term I just don't identify with.

[dani_phantasma]

I only label myself pro-fiction/pro-fic on Bluesky but i dont really focus on discoursy shit

I mainly try to focus toward posting and reposting good vibes stuff and fun calming stuff nowadays.

[(Anonymous)]

This is why I've always said proship =/= anti-harassment, and anti =/= pro-harassment. I've met proshippers who have self-admitted to cyberstalking and sending anonymous waves of hate to antis who weren't doing anything heinous, and antis who follow "block and move on" like a religion.

"But if they're not anti-harassment, they're not a proshipper! If they don't agree with harassing others, they're not an anti!" 'No true Scotsman', anyone?

All of this is why 'ship discourse' is bullshit. No matter which side you're on, people harass each other for not agreeing with them, all while they have it in their head that they have the moral highground. Proshippers and antis are both insufferable in their own special ways.

[(Anonymous)]

I literally don't believe you.

Go read a fucking fanfiction already, jesus.

[(Anonymous)]

Hm... as someone who is in fandoms with antis and fandoms without antis, it's a lot easier to be chill about other fans' behavior in the fandoms without antis. Once you know there are active antis operating in your fandoms, it IS really hard to do anything fannish in that fandom without also keeping fairly detailed tabs on who the antis are or might possibly be. The reason why is that antis make the stakes really high. You have no idea what they are going to accuse you of and to who and how they are going to use personal information you might mention offhand against you.

For this reason, I just CANNOT be in Discord servers where there are antis who might see/screencap my messages and share it out of context without me knowing, or who might use references to places I've lived to figure out my wallet name and dox me. Also, antis are much more crypto about their opinions nowadays, so it often takes me months sharing servers with antis before they drop offhand that they think "noncon fic endorses rape" or that "people who write an underage ship must necessarily be attracted to children or then why else would they write that?" Because of that, I need to be VERY meticulous about monitoring what people say in my fandom spaces, and I need to infer from social connections who is also likely to be an anti based on how they interact with the public anti-adjacent content of people I know to be antis. This "keeping tabs" and "doing background checks" sounds insane from an outsider's perspective and just as cliqueish and gossip-y about other fans as antis are, but this is a necessary act of self-preservation not because this is fandom but because it is specifically a fandom *with a contingent of active antis* who think their opinions about the damage of fiction are objectively correct and will harass and make extreme accusations about fans who write fiction they don't like as a direct result of that conviction.

Also, there are some important differences between the anti harassment behavior and the paranoid proshipper behavior. Namely, I do not harass or dox antis for any reason, and the reason why antis are not welcome in my spaces is because of the way they treat real people, not based on the art they consume or produce.

Anyway, my main point here is that I think a lot of the suspicion and paranoia that proshippers have in fandoms that have a significant set of antis -- while obviously undesirable -- is just rational and unavoidable because of the dangers of letting even ONE anti into a semi-private space like a Discord server, and the dangers of not warning unknowing bystanders off antis (who often don't appear to antis on the surface because, as I mentioned, antis are more crypto nowadays) and possibly implying by reblogging their content that I as a proshipper think they are also a proshipper when this is not in fact the case. A lot of behavior like keeping tabs on people and doing background checks and avoiding anyone who doesn't put "proship" on their bio is in fact needed to protect yourself in fucked-up fandoms.

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[philstar22]

I don't think it is quite that strong. And I think Blue Bloods is worse. But I do agree that Gibbs is awful. I feel that way about Tony too. I stopped watching the show because of them.

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[(Anonymous)]

I don't understand why this is a secret.

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[(Anonymous)]

This is a whole mood. I can't have pets rn, but there are some pet accounts that I follow on youtube while wishing to just hug them all.

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[(Anonymous)]

Hang on let me Google something real quick





Bruh.

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[(Anonymous)]

*at THEIR best. The Doctor is not always male.

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[(Anonymous)]

But a lot of them aren't actually turn-based anymore. To the point weher several games have turned off long-time genre fans because they don't enjoy the action adventure gameplay that has often replaced classic turn based gameplay.
The plot thing I kinda get but that's not limited to JRPGs - the main difference with JRPGs is how often the games end with your protagonist/player character sacrificing themself for the greater good.

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Favorite Holiday Songs

[philstar22]

What are your favorite holiday songs? Any holiday.

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Games thread!

[(Anonymous)]

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There are a couple of countries that look like belemnites, and I got the wrong one this this, then floundered about in the right area. Better luck next time.

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Politics thread:

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[(Anonymous)]

I hate that the internet and fandom has somehow decided that fucking furries are more deserving of respect and protection than trans people are.