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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-05-22 05:32 pm

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Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 83 secrets from Secret Submission Post #072.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 4 5 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

NS!1, 10, 18, 63

[identity profile] annwyd.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:49 pm (UTC)(link)
NS!1. That's...a really good question. Valdemar in general has all the elements you'd expect for a big, messy fandom. I wonder if it's just because it was started before internet fandom exploded all over messageboards, forums, and Livejournal?

ETA that I forgot about Mercedes Lackey being the anti-fandom type. Considering how much Valdemar resembles cheesy fanfiction, it's pretty funny...

10. Possible reasons people make an OC in an established canon:

1) They want to use that OC to provide a fresh viewpoint on the canon characters (I like doing this).
2) They like the setting and want to play with it themselves.
3) ...they want a Mary Sue, lol. But it's not all that.

I'm pretty sure it doesn't have much to do with "there aren't enough characters" (except in fandoms where...there aren't).

Not that you can't dislike OCs yourself, but, y'know.

18. I started watching GW some months back and enjoyed it plenty. I didn't finish it, but that was just because I got distracted (I, uh, do that a lot), not because I thought it sucked. So that's your theory disproved! All it takes is one counterexample, you know. 8)

...I mean, I'll admit that it sucks as much as any cheesy mecha anime with improbably teenage characters (like this is just a failing of Wing??), but "people only like X because they are deluded in Y way" statements are dumb.

63. Man, when did this happen? Back when I was in Geass fandom it was full of the good crack and plenty of rabid insanity and pointless vitriol.
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[identity profile] kumagoro-usagi.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 10:34 pm (UTC)(link)
63)I was about to ask the same question. Since when was Geass fandom sane?

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52: Let me make this clear: You are going to the part of hell where they keep war criminals.

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19. Keith is SEXY.
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64,72

[identity profile] wickedmommy.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:50 pm (UTC)(link)
64. I hate Euro Trash vampires. I love vampires as "monsters" though.

72. HOw does one be a "fledgling" cannibal? YOu only nibble?

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[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:59 pm (UTC)(link)
They haven't passed their S'ATE'Ts.

Waw. Waw. Waaaaaaaw.

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[identity profile] kiwi-from-hell.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree very much. I don't know quite why it all has to be so fucked up with Doctor/Master. I mean, there's the ending the world issue but the Master wasn't always like that, and never really seemed past some level of salvation. He'd still be a bit off base, but I doubt to the point that the Doctor couldn't deal with it.

Heh. I'm such a Master apologist. I just...they were all in love and stuff. And it was sweet and lovely. I want some of that in fic. Not fluff exactly, because that would be weird, but it doesn't have to be quite so mentally destructive. I don't mind BDSM, and yes the Master has a power thing, but...perhaps they could cuddle afterwards and be as totally, obvious in love as they were in canon.

Um. I'm not really in Dr Who fandom, barely at all in Doctor/Master (because I dislike so much of the fic). I needed to voice that.

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[identity profile] theohsocurlyone.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Heh. I'm such a Master apologist. I just...they were all in love and stuff. And it was sweet and lovely. I want some of that in fic.

Two words in response to that: Visit [livejournal.com profile] shaggydogstail. And find her Doctor Who fic tag. That was eight words, wasn't it?

You'll be glad you did. And you will be crying with laughter for several days. She is brilliant.

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[identity profile] radarsparks.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
54. Hell, man, me too. I think that movie's inspiring in its own way. ;A;

56. YYY, me too again jfejova

65. Mmmmm-morphing time. D8
empanadas: ([No Sex Plz] Kallen & Zero -- Code Geass)

[personal profile] empanadas 2008-05-22 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
2: Milly! ♥

63: Code Geass fandom isn't so bad. At least there aren't any shipping wars of the batshit persuasion, although there was a crappy attempt on one.

[identity profile] king.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:51 pm (UTC)(link)
58. lol I used to go to aol chats when I was like 12.

77. I'm ashamed I was ever a fan of that show.

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[identity profile] digivolution.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
56: LMAO same here xD Isn't watching it after you haven't watched it for like 10 years the strangest thing ever? XD

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[identity profile] militarypenguin.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
THAT IS AWESOME.

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[identity profile] poissonlune.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
N!S 1: I don't know if it's supposed to be a rhetorical cry of despair or a real question, but xD As far as I can remember - and it's been years, mind you - Mercedes Lackey is one of those authors who clamps down pretty hard on fandom stuff. I think there was an "Official" Fan Club called The Queen's Own, or something?

... of course, I was in and out of that fandom before I actually discovered fandom, so my information is probably out of date ;;

[identity profile] mollyisacatlady.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
72 - EW EW EW EW

[identity profile] freakyfanboy.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
10. I think OCs, when done well, can add a lot to fanfiction--particularly when you're dealing with series where characters mention family members, but we never see them (or only see brief glimpses).

18. "Why are they fourteen, and why does nobody comment on this?!" And thus, Neon Genesis Evangelion is made.

33. Anything by Megan Whalen Turner.

52. SO DID I! XD;;

65. You win for a reference to TV Tropes!

69. Your secret describes exactly why I love Shinji (and NGE) so much. (...Also, your secret looks very pretty.)

[identity profile] kuromitsu.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
18. "Why are they fourteen, and why does nobody comment on this?!" And thus, Neon Genesis Evangelion is made.

And lo, ever since then pilots are fourteen SIXteen and still nobody ever comments on that.

More. Coffee.

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[identity profile] boogabooga-xx.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG BACK IN THE DAAAAAY

I was all over that shit.

[identity profile] captainsarah.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
11. Good for you! Monk's a great show, and he's a brilliant actor. I'm glad they made you feel better about yourself.

77. I didn't mind the mpreg, I just think the new episodes aren't as good.

08; 09; 10; 37; 77; Not!Secret #2

[identity profile] batty-gal.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:52 pm (UTC)(link)
08 -- some of them scare me as well, and I'm not a part of the fandom.

09 - OVERCLOCKED!!! I love that site, especially the Sonic remixes...

10 -- If it's a background OC, I don't mind, but I can't stand an OC as the main character, especially if they're paired with a canon character. No, just... no.

37 -- ??? People are simply interested in what they want to be interested in. I have little interest in Het, and before I even knew what "Yaoi" or "Slash" was I was reading gay fic. No need to be furious over other folk's likes, focus on your own.

77 -- They cancelled it and uncancelled it? Why? I loved the show.

Not!Secret #2 -- LOLOLOLOLOL

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[identity profile] bodyline.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
but I can't stand an OC as the main character, especially if they're paired with a canon character. No, just... no.

Am I the only person who doesn't mind when this happens?

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[identity profile] kinneas.livejournal.com 2008-05-23 01:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I just love this person's squirming at the tables of heteronormativity being completely turned.

[identity profile] streussal.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
14 - I wasn't crazy about Whitney. I liked plus-size models from other seasons better. (But I don' really pay attention to ANTM.)

37 - I do think there's some truth in that. Especially in anime fandoms.

43 - Murder By Numbers was pretty damn homoerotic. Like where Ryan Gosling sleeps with that girl that the other guy likes just to screw with him? And their interactions seem all about seduction.

65 & 80 - Animorphs again! I haven't read Visser, but the other Chronicles were really good. Cross-species relationships, yes.

74 - I think Hakkai was pretty screwed up when he was still Gonou. (...but I still ship Gonou/Kanan.)

[identity profile] shobogan.livejournal.com 2008-05-23 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
Visser has one of those too! Sort of. In a way.

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[identity profile] pantime.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I had a dream the other day where Basara (M7) and Simon (TTGL) were battling this zentradi

oh my god i woke up with the biggest grin ever

I think Basara should be placed in every single animanga ever
like Beserk or Hellsing. IT WOULD FUCKING ACE.
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[identity profile] cleopancake.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:54 pm (UTC)(link)
13. Oh I can understand. I think he's adorable sometimes :)

21. LMAO I didn't want to watch this movie until I read your secret XD

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[identity profile] puritybrown.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
29: Oh God yes. Dawkins may know biology, but once he goes beyond his area of expertise he falls flat on his face and doesn't even realise it. It's embarrassing how many stupid mistakes he makes and how lousy his arguments are. Even in the areas where I agree with him, I feel like saying "dude, GET OFF MY SIDE!"

37: ...what? Are you actually taking F!S as representative of fandom? How fucking stupid is that? 99% of fandom doesn't even know F!S exists.

The fact that you find this "scary" as opposed to, say, "annoying" or "inconvenient" or "frustrating" makes me think you are homophobic, because if you're not homophobic, why the fuck does it bother you that much? Newsflash, hon: some people like stuff you don't like. That's not just fandom: that's life. If you can't handle that, well, maybe you should join a convent.

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[identity profile] usagivindaloo.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
37: like I mentioned to someone above, I got the strong impression that the OP's annoyance is not that, OMG yaoi exists, but the very sympathetic feeling of, YAY, yaoi exists, but why can't het exist too? I can sympathize with this feeling because I ship a pairing that is just as hawt/screwed up/whatever as the fandom's favorite slash pairing... and while I would NEVER ask for less slash, I do wish people gave my pairing some more love so that they were equal.

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[identity profile] vivalanaomi.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
33. Bruce Coville! <3 I heartily recommend the “Aliens Ate My Homework” series (canon gay aliens FTW!). Gaiman’s “Coraline” is fantastic, and you might want to try out ”His Dark Materials”. I actually didn’t like it as much as some others, but it’s fairly popular. Oh, and Animorphs, though maybe just the first two dozen or so...

41. Whenever I think of this show and fanservice, I hear the Monarch crowing in my head, “That’s right! I’m blogging!” I think the writers all well-aware of their Dean-Girls (who are not to be confused with SPN Dean-Girls).

42. I wouldn’t worry about labeling yourself. I think most people actually don’t completely fall in the categories of straight, gay, or bi (which implies through its name that you like both genders equally, which… often isn’t it.).

61. You could swing him over your head and fly him like a kite.

80. Yes, yes! The Andalite Chronicles BROKE. MY. MIND.

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61. Someone needs to try that, for SCIENCE.

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[identity profile] strandedthought.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:56 pm (UTC)(link)
A good book is a good book. I'm 22, and I just started reading Rick Riordan's Percy Jackson & The Olympians series. I was a bit shocked to find the books were in the children's section, but upon reading the first one I fell in love with the series.

http://www.rickriordan.com/children.htm <-- to read about the books

They're great if you like mythology.

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[identity profile] sinonmybody.livejournal.com 2008-05-23 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
agreed. I'm 25, have a college degree and a career, and I still mostly read those types of books.

His Dark Materials trilogy, if you haven't read them yet.

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n!s2. NOOOOOOOOOO!

10. Oh boy.

19. I'd play Oddball with him, if you know what I mean.

37. OH BOY.

47. Y HELO THAR. I view /v/ and /jp/.

70. LOL

[identity profile] fyretoppaaa.livejournal.com 2008-05-22 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
3. ... YOU MAKE AN EXCELLENT POINT, MY GOOD ANON. XD OH GOD I LOVED HIS INTRO.

12. D: While I understand how you feel, this still makes me sad. :/ Naruto is an AMAZING series up until timeskip. ... then it kind of goes all to shit. Or mostly. BAWWWWW;;

37. TOTALLY GUILTY. But I do ship het pairings when they manage to grab my attention. >>: I just don't... actively try to put together het pairings to se if they work? I guess most het pairings in fandom just don't appeal to me, dynamics-wise.

56. ... oh god I still rewatch that movie sometimes. :|;;

57. I'd respond with FUCKYEAH properly only I'm still laughing at your first line. |D;;;;

70. L-LOL;;;

80. FUCK YES SPINOFFS. I've only read Visser and Andalite Chronicles, but I loved them both so hard oh god. I need to get around to the others. :DD

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Well, they DID. I just call it as I see it. And I see the hose of a vacuum cleaner sucking on his head. :D

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