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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2018-04-02 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #4107 ]


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kaijinscendre: (dbz)

[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2018-04-02 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wish there was a way to easily block certain fics, tags, or authors from ever showing up for you.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-02 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I'm categorically opposed to the idea of a downvote, but I'd give anything for a easier way to filter out things.
nightscale: Starbolt (Marvel: Black Panther)

[personal profile] nightscale 2018-04-02 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't have an Ao3 filter for authors, at least no one I know of, but I do have one for filtering ships and tags. I can find the link for you if you want it.

It only works for desktop though.

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 06:01 pm (UTC)(link)
All you have to do is write the tag with the "-"before it in the tags bar and it will be filtered out. Eg.: "-underage"
type_wild: (Tea - Masako)

[personal profile] type_wild 2018-04-02 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
That's fair.

But as for the particular pairing you chose for illustrating this, I have to point out that pedophilia is that which involves prepubescent children, which Edward Elric isn't.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-02 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Except the POV is really playing up his youth. "Little boy"

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
Cool, he's still a child.

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
Not familiar with this fandom but yeah, there's a big difference between a 15-year-old and an 8-year-old. I wish people would use the term ephebophilia instead of pedophilia.

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 12:56 am (UTC)(link)
I was gonna say, I'm not even that familiar with FMA but I was pretty sure that Edward was a teenager. I mean, isn't he in the military or something similar?

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-02 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Ahhh, arousing this sort of moral indignation is honestly one of the joys of posting transgressive content. Knowing there are people out there fuming over it, and there's not a damn thing they can do about it because AO3 was built as a safe space for writers. Side-eye away, OP!

(Anonymous) 2018-04-02 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
So, to sort of understand what you're saying here: for you, one of the good things about posting pedophilic content is that it angers people who dislike pedophilia?

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No.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-02 11:14 pm (UTC)(link)
Downvoting would not be based on how good a fic is but how unpopular certain ships or kinks are. There would be brigades against certain authors.

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nightscale: Stitch with a guitar (Disney: Stitch)

[personal profile] nightscale 2018-04-02 11:25 pm (UTC)(link)
I can understand you reasoning 100%, but it wouldn't end up being used to down-vote legitimately problematic content, it would only end up as another tool to use in ship-wars or hate-brigades against certain authors.

It would be far too easy to abuse and frankly I don't trust fandom to use it with a level-head(hell catch me in the wrong mood and I'd down-vote a fic out of spite).

(Anonymous) 2018-04-02 11:47 pm (UTC)(link)
No joke, there were actually several fanfics in the IT 2017 tag of Bill Skarsgard raping each individual child actor in IT. Like, it wasn't even them as characters, it was just straight up actual RPF of this, with none of the child actors being aged up. I'm not sure if they're still up, but reporting them to AO3 resulted in AO3 responding with "we're not gonna do shit about it because all fiction should be allowed and oh no censorship is the worst, yadda, yadda, yadda". Pretty fucked up that legit pedophilia of real life children is allowed on that fucking site.

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
Eh, like other people have said a down vote system would probably be really abused. It's bad enough we have shipwars. But I would really love a tag-filtering system, and for people to make use of their tags. Like, this fic is tagged underage, if you had a way to filter that you wouldn't have to see it at all.

(But an aside, I hate when people water down the word pedophilia. There is a difference b/w writing fic of a 15yo and of a 5yo. But whatever)

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
I'd rather there was a way to block stuff like this instead of simply down voting it.

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
There's literally porn of fucking babies on ao3 and you chose this as your example?

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 01:01 am (UTC)(link)
...how about no. Are the tags not enough to keep you away from it? If it's going to have something in it that's not to your liking, then don't fucking read it, and go find something that you do like.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2018-04-03 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
I’ve been on a fanfic site that had upvotes and downvotes. Pedo fic got tons of upvotes. The main downvote target was edgy overpowered OCs along the lines of Coldsteel the Hedgehog.

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(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 03:05 am (UTC)(link)
so this ship bothers you and you're feeling judgmental about it. okay. how about the fact that ed is a child soldier to begin with? or that major, sympathetic characters are war criminals? is all that magically not problematic?

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I could have sworn I had DW open in this tab and not tumblr.

(Anonymous) 2018-04-03 05:39 am (UTC)(link)
Not the fic author's fault that you are too shit stupid to filter your own fandom experience.
And stop using pedophilia for things that are not. You people are the reason that word is losing its meaning and its impact as something people are actually disgusted and appalled by.

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[personal profile] dancing_serpent 2018-04-03 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
I wished there was a way to anonymously mark a fic as "tried it/hated it" that wasn't visible to others and didn't clog up my bookmarks. Like, flag it privately and it shows up with a light red background when you're logged in, just like your own fics show up with the light grey background.

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[personal profile] otakugal15 2018-04-05 09:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Except...it depends on YOUR definition of "pedophilia."

As it stands, fandom these days equate pedos with a fucking age gap....even between ADULTS.

And Ed is HARDLY a "little boy" in terms of age. Height, sure, but age? No. Is it still squicky and EPHEBOPHILIA? Yes. Pedophilia? NO.