[ SECRET POST #4308 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4308 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Ian and Mickey from Shameless (US)]


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[Fandom Secrets]


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[severus snape x ron weasley]


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[Keira Knightley]


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[Return of the Obra Dinn]


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[Neil Gaiman, Good Omens]










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Comments

[fscom]

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[Keira Knightley]

[philstar22]

I think she can parent how she wants, and I think there are some problems with the messages of some Disney movies (Agree with her on Cinderella, but not Ariel). But I think a better solution is to let your kid watch and then talk about it.

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, Cinderella wasn't even her waiting on the prince. She legit just wanted to go to the ball for a night out and a night off! The prince thing just happened.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed 100%. Just banning something outright is making it forbidden fruit to a kid. They'll just be more likely to watch it behind your back at a friend's house where someone else's parents have no idea that The Little Mermaid is verboten, and where you can't discuss it with them afterwards.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not like there's not a million other movies out there to watch, and the idea in principle of not wanting to show your kids stuff with old fashion messages seems reasonable

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah. I grew up wo any Disney and suffered not at all for it.

[(Anonymous)]

+1

It's not the end of the world if a kid doesn't watch two Disney movies. People who are clutching their pearls over this need to ease up on the Disney koolaid.

[(Anonymous)]

Are kids still into classical 2D animation? My friend told me that her cousin's children only want CG movies.

[(Anonymous)]

That's really sad. There are some beautiful 2D movies.

[(Anonymous)]

How old is her daughter? I could understand if she wanted to wait a bit until the child is able to understand things a little better, maybe?

[(Anonymous)]

None of your business really. Not like that's harmful parenting.

[(Anonymous)]

You're not wrong, but if fandom started ignoring things that were none of their business, there'd be no fandom at all.

[(Anonymous)]

Most of the secrets aren't anyone's business, really. But it's not interfering to have an opinion, or to express an opinion.

[(Anonymous)]

Dude, 3 years old is too freaking young anyway to start watching full length movies already, just let the kid grow up, mature, acquire a functioning brain!!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm just wondering what the conversation will be like if her daughter ends up wanting to watch Cinderella or The Little Mermaid. If her daughter expresses interest, will she still forbid her from watching the movies or just watch them with her and have a conversation about their choices?

Yeah.

[(Anonymous)]

Apparently, she hasn't listened to Part of Your World.

But seriously though, that's absolutely her prerogative as a parent, and maybe she's right, that that's what her daughter would take from the movies, but those messages are not what I got from them.

Ariel really, really wanted to know about the world on land and I feel like at least part of why she does what she does is reaction to her father's actions. Sure, wanting to see Eric is in the mix, but not her whole motivation by far.

Cinderella just wanted to dress up in nice clothes and go to a fancy ball and not have to deal with her crappy life for a night. And even though the prince danced with her, she just seemed to think of it as a nice thing to daydream about. It didn't seem to me like she thought there would be any more to it until the advisor was doing his search.

[(Anonymous)]

This is exactly what religious nutjobs do, but whatever, it's her kid.

[(Anonymous)]

I've been planning on making a secret about this as well.

I agree with you, OP.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there is far worse out there than Disney movies. I grew up on Disney films and they never taught me to wait around for a man to save me. I think people should be able to enjoy stuff on their own merits and form their own opinions. Parents that try to censor their kids to ridiculous degrees only raises the chances of them being rebellious.

Agreed!

[killertofuuu]

Same. Cinderella, including Disney's, doesn't get nearly enough credit. Shit like this is exactly why I believe certain "feminist" perspectives are entirely off base and meaningless. Their claims are poorly researched at best. You really have to stretch and project to come to the conclusion that Cinderella is all about waiting for a man to come fix your problems. That is asinine, myopic bullshit, in my opinion. Also, that so wasn't even the point of Cinderella. The point is, despite the abuse, neglect, and losing both of her parents, she never stopped being kind. She never stopped being true to herself. She never let her bad circumstances get the better of her. Things got better because she never gave up on herself and never blamed anyone for her problems. That is a timeless tale for girls and women, in my opinion. Hell, boys and men could even learn a little something from Cinderella. Kurt Vonnegut was a grumpy old cynic in his lifetime, and even he saw value in the story of Cinderella.

Read more here: https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/what-theme-moral-cinderella-429754

And here: https://wehavekids.com/education/Lessons-From-Cinderella-Cindeer-Girl-Teaches-Children-About-Endurance-and-Hope

And here: https://www.pitt.edu/~dash/grimm021.html

[(Anonymous)]

Forbidding a kid from watching a movie won't shield them from its messages. If the message of Cinderella and The Little Mermaid was really "women need men" (which it's not) not letting her kid watch them won't prevent them from hearing that message other places, like oh, real life. What it will do is make the kid want to watch the movies even more and resent the fact that she didn't allow it.

[(Anonymous)]

Imho, the real propblem with Disney movies is the corporate merchandising machine which makes little girls obsessed with being a pretty princess, not the individual movies' messages, but unless she moves to a place like Iceland (which has amazing focus on keeping branded crap away from young kids), she's not going to be able to do shit about it, because Disney (and other corporate branding machines) are unescapable. But let her try, if she wants to.

Also, I have to say that it's weird to see so many people so invested in one actress's idea of not showing her child two or three children films.

[(Anonymous)]

My parents banned most cartoons to my brother and me. Religious reasons. When we got older we got really, really into cartoons. All sorts. That has waned now that we're in our thirties, but yeah, they had time to regret it a bit.

OTOH, I don't particularly. I don't feel the pop culture I missed out on, cartoons being only a part of it, would have been more valuable to the developing children than the wildly imaginative things we did instead, our own stories and games.

There's enough evidence now about child development to think knee jerk bans on media for little kids is probably a good thing, whatever the motive or later backlash.

Let a kid's brain development and they can find these things when they're older if they want them. Parents are constantly surprised when their kids end up making their own decisions at a certain point, but it keeps happening anyway.

I might think my parents motives were strict and narrow, but I think the results of very limited TV and later internet did us much more good than harm. Things got a lot less restrictive as we grew up.

In fact I think my youngest brother missed out a bit because he was allowed to have video games before he was ten and a lot more TV.

Maybe that makes me a fuddy duddy. Idk, I think there's something a little sad about childhood nostalgia focusing on video games and TV shows or movies too much.

[(Anonymous)]

I think it's quite reasonable of her.

[(Anonymous)]

I can dig it. I'm hoping it's more a case of her just not exposing her daughter to those movies until she's a bit older and they can talk about these sorts of things, rather than her just outright forbidding them. Three years old is a little young to try and have a conversation about the roles of the female characters in most Disney movies from that era.

Not that there's anything wrong with people who grow up on those movies, mind you. I watched all those movies when I was a kid, and apart from being a giant hopeless romantic, I'm fine.