[ SECRET POST #782 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #782 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 165 secrets from Secret Submission Post #112.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 - too big ], [ 1 2 3 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

101

[(Anonymous)]

i fail to understand this secret

103

[(Anonymous)]

I get it, i do. Tons (probably most) fandoms focus on the m/m relationships even if they're not even CLOSE to being cannon and usually stick the women (who're supposed to be the cannon to their slash relationship) on the altar to burn.

Though there are a few shows where the slash involve shoving the men up there and rooting for the f/f side of the story.

No offense intended, i know loads of wonderful feminists and i'm sure you were just angry when you wrote this and it probably comes off more hostile and whatnot than you intended.

But, really. Really, really? Have we so quickly reverted to where using something that isn't socially acceptable in a show (and or fandom) is worth wanking over?

There are shows making fun on feminists, transsexuals, misogynists, homosexuals, lesbians, Americans, Arabs, whatever.

So when shows use misogynistic males, it's automatically a reason to bring out the torches? Just because they didn't want and or have a strong female lead? That's ridiculous. Not every show is going to be driven towards that, and not ever fandom will either.

Let's be honest, every woman in the world wants to be the female (and in some cases) male counterpart to their favorite shows hero, even if that means hating on one of the characters just because of the role they play.

i don't like other girls, i only have male friends... that makes you and idiot, and a dumbass.

that's got to be the most hateful, cruel thing i've ever heard.

I never had any close female friends when i was growing up i stuck with the guys it wasn't because i hate girls, the just didn't seem to like me which wasn't a big deal, we didn't have a lot in common, i didn't really find any women i got along with until college.

Your secrets talks about all the strides women have made, and the things they fought for to make us equal.

Part of being equal is dealing with the fact that not everyone agrees with you, not everyone likes everything you like. Especially that not every little thing (especially something a invalid and FICTIONAL as fandom) is trying to stick it to those accomplishments and values.


Like i said, this is in no way trying to be mean. I get it that you're sick of women hating on women...for being women. But the reason they're hating on women is driven from the perspective of a fictional primetime show, they're not trying to stab their female-coworker in the back so their male-coworker can get her job.

Re: 103

[pikabot]

What the hell is going on in this reply.

[weallfallout.livejournal.com]

106. Unrelated to the secret, but does anyone have the source for that fanart? The coloring is absolutely gorgeous.

148. It's... it's online. Apple even has it in EXTRA HUGE SIZE HD!

168. I really like what I've read about the DMC universe, I love the characters, and the graphics of the newest game are so gorgeous... but I can't play any of the games to save my life.

[jesidres.livejournal.com]

http://tolueno.deviantart.com/art/Harry-and-Ginny-final-1-40723838

TinEye is your friend for finding the original art of Secrets :D

101

[resounding-echo.livejournal.com]

Yes! Thank you!

I was particularly troubled by the pseudo-feminist character in Ratatouille. She has a valid critique and should be a character you root for, but instead she just perpetuates the feminazi stereotype. :(

And as much I adored Wall-E, I was really troubled by Eve. And why do robots need genders anyway?

Re: 101

[militarypenguin.livejournal.com]

I was more bugged by how she still stuck with Linguini in the end, to be honest...

[(Anonymous)]

103 - Dumb bitches like you are why I don't like other women, not because it makes me feel special. PLZ CRY MOAR.

107 - You don't have to like him (he's certainly not the best actor on the planet), but if you really think he can't sing, I have to wonder what vocalists you DO like.

137 - I agree, except I'm not sure it's a bad thing, and I fucking live here.

103

[(Anonymous)]

THIS.

[shoujokakumei.livejournal.com]

154 - Does your girlfriend know you're a prick? You might want to let her know.

[morgana006.livejournal.com]

101. My Inner Feminist would like to point out how many of their movies fail the Bechdel Test (http://bechdel.nullium.net/).

114. If written well, the event could honestly be a dividing choice - neither side is right or wrong - but all the writers seemed to believe Iron Man was wrong and wrote him evil. (Me? I'm with the X-men. Or with Nextwave. Screw that shit, I'm going over here. But that's not the point.)

132. Because... yes? I am unsurprised.

135. I think Wasp needs a hug. Or a few hugs.

154. ....It's Kingdom Hearts. A good deal of the fangirls believe that every single member of Organization XIII is gay. And his element is flowers. Okay I give up. The way you phrased this secret is made of fail, and I will promptly forget it exists.

Too Big 2: ...I should start playing that again.

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[bookofsorrow.livejournal.com]

!


i loooove that movie. *nod*

[easilyentranced.livejournal.com]

116. You know, I watched Friends for the longest time. I was obsessed with that show, but I never shipped anything besides what was canon. But, you’re absolutely right. Chandler and Joey would have been a phenomenal couple.

122. :D I’ve only seen a couple of those, but they’re brilliant.

124. Bella should’ve picked the werewolf anyway. Go for it, girl.

129. Oh, bummer, dude. I went through that phase a while ago. Hopefully it’ll go away like mine did.

149. Hahaha, awesome.

154. I agree with you… besides the calling people faggots part. That made me a little angry. But whatev, man.

161. Hahahahaha!

167. Oh my god, Demetri Martin! I saw him live and I felt the same way! He’s so gorgeous and talented. ::drools at the Greek goodness::

[voodoo-buddha.livejournal.com]

120. Yeah. How could you not? The man was brillant. Have you ever read 'Contact'? Much better than the movie.

144. Holy shit. I totally did not know he was the kid from 'Midnight'. Now I'm going to have to give Merlin a shot.

167. Demetri Martin is pretty hott, but he's damn funny too. Maybe you should just listen and not watch. (Off to me office. Hold me calls. Yar.)

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[ryttu3k.livejournal.com]

Oh, man, SO much better! The world it describes is just amazing in its detail, and the movie left out a lot of characters I adore :( (Lunarcharsky! Apparently he's based on a real Russian scientist, as are quite a few other characters.)

[caterfree10.livejournal.com]

103. COMPLETE AGREEMENT, ANON!

153. I WANT A LINK TO THE ART~! I must show my adoration for this person's amazing work AND learn about these awesome OCs! :3

[(Anonymous)]

There's this: http://gaangjr.nfshost.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page
And the art was done by Mayekoi, a rather delightful artist: http://mayeko.deviantart.com/

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[xenafox.livejournal.com]

101. Most of their major characters HAVE been males too, haven't they...I never thought much about it til now.

106. I love Ginny. It makes me sad that people knock her sometimes because of the bad epilogue or for the gay.

116. FUCK NO DX Get outta my fandom. I love that show SO much but that secret makes me sad.

129. Neopets is so addictive even though I hate what they did to the site.

149. XD That's cute.

116

[(Anonymous)]

You are not alone, anon. :/ *clings*

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[phonexwing.livejournal.com]

129. I have neopets open in the other tab. I am also ashamed. I can completely relate. That website is so addicting!
160. That's one of the most adorable things I've ever read. < 3
164. Morticia is the only woman I would be gay for.

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[ryttu3k.livejournal.com]

120. HELL yes. I mean, uh, I respect the man for his contribution to planetary science, science popularisation, and SETI. Yes >.>

136. XD It's like the tech version of Master/Doctor!

120 OP

[(Anonymous)]

Uh-huh, sure. That's what they all say!

I don't feel so alone now, Lol.

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[xjust-anotherx.livejournal.com]

Way to go. That episode is hella cute, and while I follow both the anime and the manga, they both have their brightsides.

If you like it, either way it comes, then there's no way you're a bad fan!

103, 146, 154

[(Anonymous)]

103: Yeah, self-hating women are really obnoxious, but aren't there girls that just don't relate to other girls very well? "I only have male friends" =/= "I don't like other women."

also, re: strong female characters-- when a writer goes out of his/her way to create a "strong female character" instead of making a character that fills a unique place in the cast, is developed as a human being and written sympathetically, can take care of herself, AND is a girl... well, those kind of characters can come off as Mary Sues, because they're supposed to be super-competent and not have any obvious flaws. (And IMO? "Girls need to be strong all of the time" is as unrealistic as "girls need to be submissive and pretty.")

146: What is this? It looks pretty.

154: On one hand, Marluxia is heterosexual in my headcanon, too, mostly because shipping him with anybody but Larxene doesn't do it for me. On the other hand... um, that's really not a polite word to use, especially not so much, and you're probably going to get flamed by a lot of people and I can't say I really blame them.

Most yaoi fans don't care if everyone else likes it. She probably just thinks you're cool with it because you keep playing along that you're cool with it. If your girlfriend is a rational person, she'll accept it if you tell her, "It's not that you're a bad artist, but I don't like yaoi/yaoi makes me kind of uncomfortable, especially because I think fandom got Marluxia's personality really wrong. Could you not show me that stuff anymore?" Aaaaand, if she's not a rational person, you don't want to be dating that. Mmmkay?

Re: 103

[neonstilettos.livejournal.com]

eah, self-hating women are really obnoxious, but aren't there girls that just don't relate to other girls very well? "I only have male friends" =/= "I don't like other women."

The secret was specifically referring to the "I hate other women" variety. You know, the ones who are are like "every single woman on this planet is a vapid, catty bitch so I hate them all". A few of these gems have cropped up in the comments, even. There's nothing wrong with having male friends.

Coming late to the party, 115 and 148

[numb3r-5ev3n.livejournal.com]

115: REPRESENT! XD

148: I understand. ONE WEEK. ONE. WEEK. LEFT.

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[(Anonymous)]

To be perfectly honest I was sick of Kuro/Fai before I even got into the fandom, because I had lunatic fans of the pairing on my flist. D:

[matitablu.livejournal.com]

103. Well, I'm not into slash myself, but I agree. It's appalling when misogyny comes from women, but the problems applies to the whole fandom, really. I think that it's telling how much the word "Mary Sue" is used for female canon characters opposed to "Gary Stu". I concede that mainstream writers are slacking in terms of believable, well written female characters, but even characters that work are still getting the short end of the stick most of the times.

104. LOL @ the "fan" XD ok, I'm easily amused.

127. It always gives me a bit of sadface when I hear of people who left LOST, because *now* (well, since towards the end of S3) it's truly awesome, and I think they're missing on something. If even Faraday alone (whose charm sort of escapes me... I like him, but not *that* much) is bringing people back, all for the better.

148. Suggestion: youtube.

152

[(Anonymous)]

He's my least favorite as well.
It doesn't help that every Japanese APH fan alive loves him, and I'd be ostracized if I don't. So I pretend I do.

101, 103, 106

[captain-katze.livejournal.com]

Awful lot of feminists starting this one off.

Yes, this is coming from a girl, so I'm going to get my ass kicked. I can thank feminism for a few things I'm able to have today, but not things of the militant sort.

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[(Anonymous)]

What are things of the militant sort?

ALSO, 130

[captain-katze.livejournal.com]

OMFG Lackadaisy secret! Mordecai is so adorable ;A;

103, 106

[ceredwensirius.livejournal.com]

103. THANK YOU!

106. I have a real soft spot for H/G. Always have. I think they're a really sweet couple.

[miss-makiba.livejournal.com]

112. I understand perfectly, and I’m convinced Twilight is some crappy rip-off of his “Monsters.” Seriously- the similarities abound, and it makes me want to run off and read it everytime I see a Twilight secret.

128: Asexual slash/het writers unite.

101

[(Anonymous)]

I've seen this secret before, and I still don't understand it. Is it because there has yet to be a female protagonist? Because Pixar is releasing The Bear and the Bow in 2011.

Re: 101

[omorka.livejournal.com]

Not the OP, but in my case, it's (a) that (with the exception of The Incredibles, which still has a main male lead) their movies generally only have one significant female character in a sea of male characters, and (b) out of, what, nine? ten? films so far they have not had an unambiguous female lead yet. If they're about to finally fix (b), then good on them, but it's still taken a darn long while.