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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-04-25 07:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #1574 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1574 ⌋


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Secrets Left to Post: 07 pages, 173 secrets from Secret Submission Post #225.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 2 3 - too big ], [ 1 - repeats ], [ 1 - unreadable ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-04-25 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
02. http://i.imgur.com/gBK1G.png

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[identity profile] mspotamus.livejournal.com 2011-04-25 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
Gee, why isn't this down at the bottom with all the other Homestuck secrets?

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[identity profile] missing-mile-15.livejournal.com 2011-04-25 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
...Is that a screencap from The Lion King?/ignoring the secret

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[identity profile] indevoutly.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
For me it's a case of what makes a fictional child a child. Can we call the South Park children 'children' - as they clearly have personalities associated more with teenagers? Sexualising fictional children is different from sexualising real life children, but whether that makes it more acceptable or not will always be down to a personal opinion.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 12:11 am (UTC)(link)
Are we still wanking about this? (no pun intended)

Oh anon~

(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 12:14 am (UTC)(link)
This will end well, I'm sure.

(I guess the question is are we talking about children-children, or biological adults beneath an arbitrary age? Also is writing a story featuring characters that would be underage in one region but not in another still bad? Also is a story featuring such sex inherently meant to be masturbation material? Also is this screed meant for fanfic or fanart or both or what? Also calm down, lady, nobody's trying to fuck your kid.)

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I'd like to send this to Damian Wayne's entire fandom.

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ext_81845: amuro ray from mobile suit gundam, in his underwear, from the doan's island episode (WTF?!)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
For what it's worth, I tend to agree that straight up child porn of any kind is disgusting (child porn as in, porn of actual children, I think it gets into the grey area when it's a teenager or someone who's gone through puberty and different societies have different concepts of childhood and who is or isn't a child, etc.), though I still don't see how sexualized drawings or images of children that don't really exist actually harm children.

In before someone inevitably accuses me of pedophilia even though I have the opposite sexual preference
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[identity profile] tawabids.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
Hey guys

The reason you shouldn't be pedophiles

Is because it upsets OP

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I'll just leave this here

[identity profile] pelespen.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 12:19 am (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chronophilia

In case there was any confusion about terminology/definition. Just in case.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
I don't know. I used to fap to the idea of adults and children in sexualised situations when I was about seven or eight, and I don't think it turned me into a pedophile or made me any more likely to harm real children.

I'm thinking fantasizing =/= real life. But YMMV, I guess.

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[identity profile] threnody.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Need more info. Getting off to something involving children is disgusting, but is clearly not the same thing as getting off to something about teenage characters. You can pretend that 15 year olds all over the place aren't doing anything sexual, but it doesn't make it true; and it doesn't make someone reading about fictional teenagers (and thus by definition teens who are not being exploited because they're fictional) a deviant.

Also, you might want to look up some definitions.
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[identity profile] siriuslynow.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 12:31 am (UTC)(link)
I do think age might have something to do with it. When I was about 13, I didn't have a problem with underage pairings. Now though, about 7 years later, it squicks me the fuck out.

I don't think it's right to equate fictional works with actual child pornography, though.

[identity profile] urplesquirrel.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
If you're talking specifically about children (as in, still under the age of puberty), then yes, I agree with you one hundred percent. However, I feel stories about 'children' past the age of puberty can be either squicky or just fine, depending on the context and the way it's handled. A 31 year old having sex with a thirteen year old? That's always gonna be a little dicey to me. However, a story about a 14yo exploring their budding sexuality with someone in their own age range? Doesn't bother me at all. You know why? Because at fourteen, you better believe I was doing the same thing with people in my age range.

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[identity profile] subarashiine.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Oh shut the FUCK UP, you ignoramus.

I'd like to preface this by saying that Lolita/shota stuff doesn't happen to be what I'm into, but seriously? It's people like you that make others feel badly about having FANTASIES. They are PERSONAL. FANTASIES. The "children" you are talking about are fictional. Google that, since you clearly don't know the definition.
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It's not always about you

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Why does everyone assume that if I'm reading underage or chan or whatever that I'm perving on the kid? Maybe I'm perving on the older character. Maybe I'm imagining myself as the kid. Maybe I have a huge age play kink that is somewhat hit with underage kink fic.

Stop making assumptions.

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 01:05 am (UTC)(link)
They are fictional. I would much rather people be fapping to something that doesn't exist than going out and stalking actual kids in the park. am I saying it's right to want to badtouch an 11 year old? Or a teenager who looks like a kid? No, but someone wants to. Might as well be a bunch of pixels shaped like one.

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[identity profile] havemy-heart.livejournal.com 2011-04-26 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe I like to read fic (or look at fanart) of two 14-year-olds getting it on. It doesn't mean I want to fuck them. And they're fictional anyway.

(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 01:21 am (UTC)(link)
You know, I used to like lolicon/shota when I was younger (17-19). Turned me on. Now that I'm older (21) it just squicks me. Probably because my biological clock went off or something.

So no, I'm not a pedo. I don't deny that I definitely had some mental issues, but I'm not a pedo. Sometimes having a fetish turns out to be a phase.

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won't someone think of the fictional children

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(Anonymous) 2011-04-26 01:36 am (UTC)(link)
>implying real people are exactly the same as cartoons
>implying fantasy is exactly the same as reality
>implying troll

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