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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-08-05 08:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #1676 ]


⌈ Secret Post #1676 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Toriko]


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[Bubble Sisters, After School, Beast and T-ARA]


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[Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters]


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[Frezned/YouTube]


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[My Fair Lady]


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(Strawberry Shortcake's Berry Bitty Adventures)


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[Glee]


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20. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter]



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22. [SPOILERS for Voyager]



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23. [SPOILERS for Agents of Cracked]



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24. [SPOILERS for A Dance with Dragons/A Song of Ice and Fire]



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27. [TRIGGER WARNING for self injury]



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28. [TRIGGER WARNING for suicide]



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29. [TRIGGER WARNING for non-con and pedophilia]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #239.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
this is just a bunch of freaks who want to read about kids being fucked.

Fictional kids. In fiction.

If I say that enough times will it sink in?

Fiction fiction fiction not real.

[identity profile] tw-31988.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
fictional kids = fiction pedophilia. The fact that pedophilia is being requested EVEN in fiction is sick as fuck.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
The fact that you're taking it upon yourself to determine what is and isn't okay to read about is sick.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 01:08 am (UTC)(link)
Yes. You said it right there yourself. Fictional. As in, not real. Thank you for pointing that out for us all.
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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
You know though, I like chan. I like underage. I've read a ton of it in fandoms like HP. Hell, I was a member of hpchan. But the SPN kinkmeme makes even me recoil.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
lol hypocrite

(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
...So? It's still disgusting. Stop trying to excuse people being gross.

[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 01:20 am (UTC)(link)
nobody is trying to dispute the fact that it's yucky

the point is that being gross is not a crime

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[identity profile] cafune.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
fiction on a kinkmeme is often requested because it gets off the prompter and turns them on in some way. no one requests something that repulses them.

you request a story about busty redheads in chains, it is safe to assume you are attracted to busty redheads in chains.

you request a story about sex on a pool table, i'll assume sex on a pool table appeals to you.

you request a story about a toddler getting fucked, i'll assume a toddler getting fucked appeals to you and this is a nice way to get it without all the nasty consequences of being a rapist.

i don't understand how "it's just fiction" means it can't be an inherent desire. the people who requested these obviously wanted to read about kids in a sexual manner. that's a fact. if i write a story about how i want a pie, that doesn't mean i don't really want a pie, since it's just fiction.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:41 am (UTC)(link)
Agreed. I don't get the "it's just fiction" argument either. If it didn't appeal to you, why would you request it in the first place?

[identity profile] fairhearing.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Not really.

One thing is that a fictional child is not a child, it is an idea. An idea of what a child represents, universally or to the person who wants to read about it. An innocent, a powerless thing, a taboo that's sexually exciting to see breached in and of itself. Etc.

Another thing is that you have no idea what a person is thinking or fantasizing when they request these things. One person requesting rape may envision themselves as the rapist. The other may envision themselves as the person being raped. Or both parties at once. Or a voyeur totally disconnected from the events. Or all of the above.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
Hm... I have to disagree! Those prompts are maybe the kind you're talking about (i.e. prompts that the OP gets turned on by in some way). But I've requested plenty of things on kink memes that were totally not my kink, never have been my fantasy, etc. To me, it's an interesting thought-exercise to put characters in situations you know wouldn't happen in the original work, and to me there's a difference between dark fic that's very emotional even if disturbing and sexy fic I read for sexual gratification. I see both types requested fairly frequently on kink memes because sex can be a dark topic at times.

Same with people who write fills for such. Some people like to write things that are disturbing not because they get off on the disturbing aspect but because it's a challenge to write something dark and disturbing.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
This pretty much sums up my views on the "it's fiction" thing.

Personally I can respect that someone has a kink as long as it's not hurting them or anyone else (real children take priority over fictional ones after all), but I think I have every right to find the kink disgusting. I'm not going to go around starting witch hunts about it but I won't lie and say I wouldn't look at someone in a different way if I found out they were into stuff like this.

That said this is why I don't go to kink memes that are known for having lots of freaky shit in them. I suggest you do the same, OP.

(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
I'm writing a story where two twelve-year-old boys rape a young woman just for shits and giggles. By your logic, I must want to rape someone!

(spoiler: I don't.)

Also has it occurred to you that children have other traits beyond just "child" and that people might read stories for those other aspects?

Or that wanting to read about something does not in any way equal wanting to do it?

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:49 am (UTC)(link)
But there's nothing wrong with that.

Pedophiles who rape children or collect child pornography? Sure, call them monsters. But pedos finding for a harmless, safe outlet for their fantasies is not a bad thing, and they shouldn't be condemned for it.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 12:53 am (UTC)(link)
Thank you.

I don't know this fandom, but fiction or not, symbolic or not, this concept bothers me. A lot.

If it's not about getting off to little kids, why not ask for something with the character "aged-up"? Why would you ask specifically for child abuse? Just reading this secret made my stomach turn, those situations are completely disturbing and happen to real children, the doctor one hits really really close to home and almost made me tear up.

I do not care how they try to justify it, I don't care if they use it as an outlet. Stop trying to defend it and pretend there's nothing wrong with you, and get real help.

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[identity profile] time-ambassador.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with you. For what that's worth.

[identity profile] oflittlebrain.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
by your logic, since lots of women read rapefic and imagine themselves in the position of the character being raped, they must all actually want to be raped!

don't you see what's wrong with this picture lol. getting off to a certain situation doesn't really mean you would like to be in that situation yourself.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 04:21 am (UTC)(link)
uuuh, no. I read watersports and sometimes scat fics all the time. In real life, the idea repulses me. In fiction, all the gross bits are taken out, leaving only the naughty stuff. So. What I like on the kink meme =/= rl taste

[identity profile] novemberxi.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 06:17 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with cafune.

Fiction is a way we can fantasize without any real life consequence. The fact you have a thought doesn't mean you'd ever act on it or condone it, but the fact you request a kink about it means it must appeal to you on some level enough to have a kink request for it.

As long as it only stays in their head I think everyone is entitled to fantasize but that still doesn't stop me from being disgusted at seeing stuff like that.

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[identity profile] oohasparklie.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 03:50 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS.

[identity profile] ainokallas.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 07:49 pm (UTC)(link)
THIS. Thank you.

[identity profile] punishermax.livejournal.com 2011-08-06 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
Dude, I'm sorry, but no matter how much you say this it's still a story where a child, clearly described in many of those nightmarish prompts, is being sexually assaulted, trained into doing sexual acts or being forced into other horrifying acts.

This isn't Lolita, there's no subtext or discussion, these are storues for people to masturbate to, I hate censorship and I don't think anyone can be convicted for writing these, correct me if I'm wrong peeps, but I'm still well within my right to be horrified and sickened by this shit.

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 04:56 am (UTC)(link)
You fucking pedophiles always get so smug about this. "It's just FICTIIOOONNN JEEZ YOU ALL CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN FICTION AND REALITY."

Yes, we know what reality is, and the reality of it is you are turned on by the concept of children being raped. That idea makes you all wet and juicy inside. You turn to these stories because you can't get ahold of any real children. But if you ever do, then oh boy! The fantasy will get to be a reality!

If it's all just fiction, then start an archive where pedos specifically write stories about you getting raped by your dad. Repeatedly. Only his dick turns into a Swiss army knife and cuts your insides into a bloody mess, and he pulls them out and shoves them down your throat until you choke on it and die. Prompts will offer cutesy "internet bonus points" for anyone who includes details about your real life, like your pets, best friends' names, and favorite teachers joining in on the fun! Sick fucks can masturbate to that image all damn day. But don't worry, it's not fucking vile and wrong! It's fiction! That means their jerkoff sessions are perfectly healthy and natural and not at all a future Exhibit A!

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(Anonymous) 2011-08-06 07:11 am (UTC)(link)
Still means people are getting off on the idea of a child being raped. I know it's not illegal if you don't use real children, but it doesn't make it right, you sickos. This is what you enjoy, and it's disgusting. Fandom would be so much better off if we distanced ourselves from the creepy pedos amongst us.

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