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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2013-05-09 07:11 pm

[ SECRET POST #2319 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2319 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[The Hunger Games]


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[personal profile] fscom 2013-05-09 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
04. http://i.imgur.com/EDfUETl.jpg
[The Hunger Games]

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Being a heartless bitch seems better than being devoid of personality all together.
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[personal profile] morieris 2013-05-09 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
Rudeness is a personality trait! Impatience, distrustfulness...I should read these again.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
When I went online after finishing the series I was shocked by the fandoms interpretation and opinions. I quickly backed out and never looked in again, deciding the HG would just be one of those things I enjoy on my own.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-09 11:35 pm (UTC)(link)
for me it wasn't about her being "depressed and closed off"

it was that the people she seems to approve of and the people she decides aren't worth it are so arbitrary. the biggest example for me was her immediate dislike of effie but her decision that cinna is a good guy, despite both of them working for the capitol and both of them having jobs related to the hunger games.

there's other things, too, like her idolization of her father but cold opinion of her mother, and the fact that she snarks about the district 1 girl's outfit and makeup, that are annoying, as well as her hatred of the career tributes (who are fighting for their lives too, regardless of whether they've trained for it or not), especially because many of the things katniss says in her narration are supposed to be things that ~everyone thinks.
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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2013-05-09 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much.
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[personal profile] fleshisyummy 2013-05-09 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
See, I actually found those things interesting and realistic. She's a teenage girl, so she is going to be a bit immature and fickle at times.

For me, her approval of Cinna and dislike of Effie made sense. Cinna was very sympathetic toward her circumstances, whereas Effie was not. Effie was not a terrible person, but she's an immature adult, turning a blind eye to the travesties the Capitol wreaks and lives in her own little world (which is similar to how Cinna's helpers act, and Katniss doesn't like them at first either, but they eventually grow on her, and she ends up rescuing them).

Also, I'm much closer to my mother than my father, so I've never really related that much to "daddy's girls," but Katniss' idolization of her father and cold opinion of her mother make sense. Katniss' father died when she was very young, so she's probably only going to remember good things about him. Her mother, on the other hand, completely shuts down after her father's death, when both Katniss and Prim were very vulnerable, so it makes sense that she would be a bit cold toward her. However, she also ends up becoming closer to her mother and admiring her talents and capabilities when it comes to being a doctor.

Katniss' hatred of the Careers also makes sense, imo. People have a tendency to dehumanize people and to treat them as "others" in times of war and strife. Katniss never struck me as the character who analyses things. She goes on gut feelings, and what she thinks is wrong. Another character would immediately be able to see that the Careers are also to be pitied, but it takes her a bit longer to realize this.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-10 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, if you're fighting for your life w/o having any kind of real training, who wouldn't love the Career Tributes who are trained to kill from an early age? Yeah, if I was a competitor of theirs I'd love them too. Not. Get real. Also, Cinna came across as more sympathetic to her situation than Effie, who seemed stuck-up as hell. Yeah, why would Katniss like Cinna over Effie. Gee. I don't know that either. Oh, yes, I do.

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[personal profile] helenadax 2013-05-10 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
Well,imo the difference is that Cinna knows The Hunger Games are an aberration and undestands that they shouldn't be doing that. On the other hand, Effie thinks THG are awesome and that tributes should be grateful.

It's easy to understand why she idolizes her father. He was a good man and now he can't make a mistake. Most orphans in her situation have the same reaction. But her mom had a deep depresion after her husband died and Katniss and Prue would have died if Katnis wouldn't have taken care of the family when she was only a kid. I don't blame Katniss' mom for having a depression, of course, but it's easy to understand too why Katniss resents her a little. She's only a teenager in the end and she doesn't even have the same information about that sickness that we have now.

In the case of the career tributes, they choose to fight for their lives. They want to be tributes. No wonder Katniss doesn't like them.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-10 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Not to mention endangering the entire resistance movement because OH NOES HER PEETA GOT KIDNAPPED ;_;

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-12 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Holy shit. There were reasons for all those things you mentioned. Effie treated her and Peeta like cute pets that lacked any real humanity while Cinna did everything he could to make a terrible situation a little bit easier for her. She and her father shared a clear bond and her mother left her, as a twelve year old, to care for her family including a young sister all on her own. Plus, her father died. It's normal to idolize people you've loved who have died.

Seriously, wow. I can't understand how anyone could hold such ridiculous opinions after actually having read the books.
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2013-05-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It's not just you; pretty much everyone on FS thinks that the effects of oppression deserved more emphasis than "the oppressors were removed so the effects were, too, so let's have kids!"

I don't think it's the fans of the book who are completely into the love triangle, but the movie played it up like it was the Most Important Thing, ignoring a lot of the political commentary to make it watered down enough for a younger audience.
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[personal profile] mekkio 2013-05-09 11:40 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't get a "heartless bitch" from her. What sort of heartless bitch volunteers for an almost death sentence in order to save her little sister?

Yes, I agree. She's harden. She's a serf under the control of a cruel and powerful master who thinks everyone is disposable at his whim. Not exactly a lot of joy in that. That would make anyone hard. Given what we've seen in the books, it's Peeta who is the oddball. Not Katnis.
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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2013-05-09 11:43 pm (UTC)(link)
IA. I mean, I do ship Katniss/Peeta. But yeah, I'm not here for the love triangle nonsense and I think that Katniss is a really great character in her own right.
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[personal profile] omens 2013-05-09 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
I looooove Katniss's personality. It's why I was scared to see the movie and generally do not interact with HG fandom. I want to keep my Katniss Everdeen close forever.
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[personal profile] helenadax 2013-05-09 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I like her a lot too. She has forced herself to be cold, practical and cynical because she and her family wouldn't have survived if she hadn't done that. I can understand her problems to trust other people or why she thinks that feelings are dangerous; it's easy to see where all these things come from. Being killed in the Games sucks, but winning is barely better. But she's smart, brave and a good person who tries to do the right thing.

[personal profile] anonymouslyyours 2013-05-10 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry I'm always distracted by how Katniss Jennifer Lawrence made her face in this picture.
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[personal profile] saiika_von_maou 2013-05-10 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I agree. It feels like a ridiculous double-standard to me. I swear if she was a guy and Peeta was a girl, people would praise Katniss up and down and hate Peeta.

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-10 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
THIS!!! THIS A THOUSAND TIMES!!

I can't stand when people go on about Peeta, Gale or even Finnick and don't care to mention Katniss. Katniss was what atracted me to these books, what hooked me, what feels so special about them.
Besides I can't understand Peeta's fans, he's just so boring to me...

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This is why I never tried to get into Hunger Games fandom

[personal profile] nyxelestia 2013-05-10 01:06 am (UTC)(link)
Fandom will not give two shits about the best parts of the book, they're only going to care about the romance that was probably only shoehorned in for marketability. >.

SPOILER ALERT ON THIS COMMENT!!!

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(Anonymous) 2013-05-10 02:14 am (UTC)(link)
I don't really 'like' Katniss, but I really appreciate her as a character, and admire and sympathise with her.

It's why I ship her so hard with Peeta, actually; their differences compliment each other really well. His gentleness (without being spineless) soften her ruthlessness, and her realism compliments his idealism.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-10 02:29 am (UTC)(link)
<3
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[personal profile] orangescones 2013-05-10 02:36 am (UTC)(link)
The love triangle is the worst. I would have loved the books better/more if it didn't exist... But then I wouldn't have Gale's angsty-cave-stare in the first movie to make fun of. :( or Peeta dubbing Katniss Simba or I forget

Anyway, I loved how JLaw portrayed Katniss' personality in the movie because that's how removed yet still connected/aware of what was going on I imagined her. I didn't see her as a bitch, but I did find some of her inner monologuing annoying. She wasn't devoid of personality altogether, but since it was in (not very well-written) first person I can see how some people could get that.
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[personal profile] quantumreality 2013-05-10 03:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I like Katniss too, for the most part, except when she fails Spying 101 when she misses Plutarch all but yelling that he's in the Resistance with his Mockingjay watch.

(Anonymous) 2013-05-12 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
She's a wonderful character with a lot of depth and her issues clearly stem from her past experiences and the horror she has to go through living in District 12. Sadly, I've found a lot of fandom HG readers lack reading comprehension, so I don't expect them to actually get her as a character.