[ SECRET POST #2343 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2343 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I've had a bad experience with cheating myself, and I don't like to see it in media either. And if it pops up in fic? Forget it, author, you'll get me to believe your OTP will out in the end.

[(Anonymous)]

I just don't like Mad Men period. Regardless of cheating or not. It just wasn't my thing.

[(Anonymous)]

Same, especially teacher/student affairs, for similarly personal reasons. :/ I think the only time I liked a cheating couple was in Kyss Mig, and that's because I felt like the narrative acknowledged that the ones having the affair were hypocrites.

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, between my asshole cheating Grandfather, the probability that my littlest brother is a half-brother due to my mom being a cheating asshat, my husband's experiences with his first wife (oddly enough, we're now friends with her second husband, when she finishes with the third they may need to start a club), and my own experiences being cheated on, I see nothing glamorous about it and only feel contempt for the people/characters who can't keep it in their fucking pants. I automatically lose respect for you if you don't have the decency to end it with one partner before starting up with another. Probably a main reason why I never even gave Mad Men a shot.

[dancing_serpent]

I haven't watched Mad Men, but ugh, I have such an infidelity squick. Books/movies/fanfiction...doesn't matter, I hate it so much.

[(Anonymous)]

I like Mad Men, but I have to say the last point kind of stuck out because I was just thinking about how comfortable the fandom seems to be with making sexist remarks about the female characters.

[bored_bitch]

The only time I can excuse cheating is when it's between an abusive couple where the one cheating has been threatened by the other that they will hurt or kill that person for leaving them.

Or if it's an arranged marriage, and the cheating party can't confront the other because they're trapped away from them for some period of time.

Otherwise, no. Grow up, and end it if you're unhappy.

[writerserenyty]

Yeaaah I have trouble cheering on infidelity too. You're not alone.

(though in my biggest fandom a JPop singer was caught cheating on her husband so this is a big thing for me right now. But there's the possibility of domestic violence, so I'm on her side right now).

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't even had a bad experience with it and I can't with cheating - not in media, not in fic. It disturbs me that these sorts of media glorify/romanticize that sort of behavior :/ At most, I'll still be somewhat okay with the characters as characters (especially if they're supposed to be douchey/not good people), but I'll never be convinced that the relationship is built on anything but lies.

[orangescones]

Omg yes, and I personally am so bored when plot lines turn to cheating. When I was watching Six Feet Under I was just so annoyed that relationships just turned into cheating (and then adultery) one after the other. I was watching Friday Night Lights too and that had some cheating as well, so it's just... cheating overload sometimes. It's hard to sympathize with cheaters, though sometimes I can sympathize after the cheating is over (and apologies have been made) so it's not considered ~romantic.

I haven't watched Mad Men since I haven't been particularly interested in it, but knowing it has a lot of cheating and adultery in it makes me less inclined.

[sootyowl]

That's why I have a hard time rooting for Olivia/Fitz from Scandal . What they're doing is wrong and seeing Mellie deal with their infidelity is sad to watch.

Also, Fitz is a manipulative creeper who deserves no one.

[(Anonymous)]

I have such a hard time with infidelity... even if I ship the two who are hooking up, I just can't enjoy it. I just want the person to break up with their spouse/boyfriend/fiance/whatever and THEN get together with the other one. I can't stand the cheating. I'm with you OP, 100%.

[agnes_bean]

While I totally understand your basic point, I do want to point out that Mad Men hardly romanticizes cheating. I can understand why it would be hard to watch anyway, but most of the adultery going around on that show is a reflection of how damn unhappy and broken the characters are (esp. Don).

[(Anonymous)]

I have pretty strong opinions on cheating and I don't like media that glorifies it. But I do like that issues as common as infidelity are addressed and the various causes are explored in media.

[ninety6tears]

I actually can have a weird fascination with how infidelity is handled in fiction because I find it so hard to grasp why people cheat, if that makes any sense.

I can't think of any cheating in Mad Men that was really romanticized BTW.

[rapunzelita]

I am eternally annoyed by adultery in TV shows because there are alternatives to it. The fact that polyamory basically does not exist (edit: in media and especially TV) rubs me the wrong way. (Same for "love triangles" that INEVITABLY ends with the main character having to "pick".)

[shahrizai]

I can't even listen to Hinder's 'Lips of an Angel' anymore without getting pissy. It always puts me in a bad mood. It sounds like such a romantic song, and then you realize he's on the phone with his ex.

[littletown]

Agreed. Once Upon a Time and LA Noire are huge offenders in my book, made me stop watching the first and never tried playing the second.

In my experience, people who try to justify it have cheated themselves. I understand that one gigantic flaw doesn't define a person but I don't know. Cheating caused my family a lot of grief and gave me huge trust issues. I can't approach it objectively.

[(Anonymous)]

Hmm, am I the only one who's not bothered by reading/watching infidelity? Or maybe only the people bothered by it cared to comment? And no, I haven't any personal experience with cheating, on either end.

[ooh_mrdarcy]

interesting

I've never cheated but one of my fandom friends who has cheated told me that the show makes him feel extremely guilty

nobody bit the bait?!

[(Anonymous)]

"...i wonder if people who have cheated find watching shows like mad men a lot easier?"

I'm proud of you, f!s. You are learning. :'D

[(Anonymous)]

I have a feeling that cheating in my family is the reason why I narrow in on how fictional couples communicate. If there's dishonesty going on I'm typically reserved about the couple even they're one I'd normally like; might give some leeway for the "but I can't tell you or you'd be in danger!" trope but that has its limits too. And cheating itself, of course, is the big NOPE.

Mixed feelings

[nyxelestia]

I've seen both the dark side of cheating and the romantic/light-hearted side of it, and both in relation to my parents, so I try not to commit whole-heartedly to any one side of the issue. I've seen it both destroy a marriage and, hilariously, save one (or, at least, maintain it and keep it from imploding).

That said, I will say there are a lot of things which I like to see in fiction that I would never tolerate in the real world, cheating being one of them. *shrugs*

I mean, to each their own, OP, if you don't like cheating then you don't like cheating. This isn't a bad thing.

[(Anonymous)]

As someone who has been cheated on, I am right there with you. No interest in it, and any romanticization of infidelity just pisses me right off. It's not romantic, it's SHIT. It's selfish and untrue and just shit, and anyone who thinks otherwise is deluding themselves. And no, this isn't bitter old hag talking - my husband and I actually stuck it out, worked it out, did therapy, etc., and we are far better off than we were before. But cheating is just shit, plain and simple.