[ SECRET POST #2635 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2635 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Casshern (film)]


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02.
[cosplay, Anthony Misiano]


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03. http://i.imgur.com/4s3vCwo.png
[link for nudity/etc. naked mpreg snape with boobs.]


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04. http://i.imgur.com/aQi1eUV.png
[link for nudity (OP requested it; not really sexual though. probably would've been ok, considering the one below ↓)]


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08. [posted twice]


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09.
[Josh Radnor]


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10. [SPOILERS for Sherlock]



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11. [SPOILERS for Grimm]



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12. [SPOILERS for Twisted]



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13. [WARNING for ephebophilia]



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14. [WARNING for suicide]



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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #376.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

13. [WARNING for ephebophilia]
http://oi57.tinypic.com/avkn7a.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Words have meanings, and they also have context. And it's incredibly difficult for me to remove the word 'ephebophilia' from the context of its use as a term for people who want to use it instead of pedophilia for the explicit purpose of making it seem more acceptable.

[(Anonymous)]

Wanting to fuck a 15 or 16 years old kid is questionable. Wanting to fuck a 5 years old is fucking monstrous. It is not the same. At all.

[(Anonymous)]

"people"
hahaha no.

[darkmanifest]

Yes, this. Sometimes when people go through the trouble to nitpick the differences between those terms, it's not just to be pedantic, but to imply that ephebephilia is okay - not just different than pedophilia, but perfectly acceptable as anything other than a fantasy. They start waxing poetic about how twelve-year-old girls used to be married with two kids back in Ye Olden Times as if that's something to regard with envy. It's more than a little creepy and that's what I'm reminded of whenever anybody brings up ephebophilia, even if they're just doing it for specificity's sake.

[(Anonymous)]

It IS natural to be attracted to someone post-puberty. Doesn't mean it's alright to fuck someone under age but the logic that someone only becomes sexually attractive once they pass 18 is kind of silly.

[swamp_adder]

Yup, this.

[(Anonymous)]

it can be both natural AND skeevy as fuck. we're more than mindless animals, we should be developed enough that a 35-year-old man can look at a 13-year-old and not want to fuck and impregnate her while she's still "fresh". that might be what the animal side of us wants, and therefore it IS natural, but that doesn't make it not creepy as fuck.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh wow, that's my anon comment.

Anyway, OP, I do realize that there's a difference between the two but the lengths people will go to defend their attraction to teenagers is disgusting. That line of reasoning is just skeevy to me.

[(Anonymous)]

Pretty sure these people can tell the difference between a child and post-pubescent adolescent. They don't have to like your preferences.

[(Anonymous)]

I find plenty of other fetishes abhorrent too, aka rape (which people cute-tify to noncon, of course), bestiality, and skullfucking, but I think how fandom singles out fictional kinks of ephebophilia and pedophilia is pretty hilarious. They're no better.

[(Anonymous)]

just curious why is this not a "take it to the comments" thing? it's kinda barely fandom. hell the OP those comments were screencapped from was barely fandom imo.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure the stigma only applies to grown neckbeard creep guys who want a justification to rape young girls. Fandom is full of them. You're a young girl who likes to be the victim of these sick fucks, so morally I think you're fine.

[(Anonymous)]

Tell my friend who was repeatedly raped by her father as a teenager that he wasn't a pedo. I guess he just liked young women, huh? Seriously, it's pretty dodgy to put too fine a point on the difference, because the characteristics of abuse are all the same.

[(Anonymous)]

Those comments were addressing the people on the show To Catch A Predator. A show that uses real life situations and old creeps who are attracted to real life minors. That is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT from finding a fictional book or anime character who is underage attractive. I know you're probably just trying to cause wank by comparing apples and oranges here, but in case you aren't you really need to understand the difference.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't worry, OP, you're just another lie of the patriarchy. We've been repeatedly assured that teenage girls are never actually attracted to older men, so your problem has been solved by declaring you nonexistent. Thank you for your participation.

[illiadandoddity]

I can enjoy some pretty serious age differences in fic. Like you, I'm putting myself in the shoes of the younger character who's attracted to the older character. I think in its own way, it's a pretty standard power fantasy for young people, the idea that someone much older than you could love you that way. In real life, young teens entering into relationships with older people may think that they're in that fictional scenario were they hold the power, but they most definitely do not.

A lot of things that are 100% awful in real life can be empowering as fantasies. Enjoying something in fiction=/=condoning it in real life.

[forgottenjester]

I can go with that in an academic sense but the fact of the matter here is I'm not in a classroom. At least not currently. Though I suppose I could be... Whatever! You know what I mean. I'm going to use things colloquially. Language evolves. Words change. As an anon above me said, context matters.

Here's the beauty of language: I can use whatever words I want however the fuck I want and as long as you understand me it doesn't matter if they follow the rules. Shit, half of what I type here doesn't follow proper grammatical rules. I do that on purpose. I also happen not to care.

You can't stop this linguistic shift. You don't have to like it, fine, but you can't shit on people who follow it.

Also, not blocking out GreenVelvetCake's icon and name? Stay classy.

[(Anonymous)]

...well you sound creepy. Notsorry anon, but if I knew someone in real life who was interested in teens I'd keep my eyes on them all the time - be it around kids or teens. It's skeevy as fuck, borderline to real grooming and if they can't fucking wait for a legal age they are c r e e p y.

[(Anonymous)]

You know, sometimes you see a secret, and you go, "That's going to start a fight." And you come back a few hours later, and it turns out you were right.

I don't really have much to say on the secret itself, though. Sorry.

[(Anonymous)]

Wonder how North Americans here will react if they learn the average age of consent in European, Latin American and SA counties is 14-16...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Age_of_Consent_-_Global.svg

[(Anonymous)]

Why has noone mentioned that if the younger person is younger the legally consenting age it is still considered statutory rape? Which means, that in those circumstances, ebophilia is technically illegal. Plus, in the older guy/younger girl set-up the guy (usually) goes for younger girls solely because he can't get women his own age and younger girls are a helluva lot easier to get into bed. Plus, no matter what the older person's gender is, it is easy for them to manipulate/groom the younger person.

I'm not saying that this sort of relationship can be healthy and meaningful, it's just that that (^) is the usual motive/dynamic.

[(Anonymous)]

I admit I was mostly distracted by a screen name being left visible in the secret. Even if I agree with a person's opinion, I obscure all names in a screenshot to try to reduce the amount of wank that can result.

[seventh_seal]

Let me reiterate what I wrote above - where I live, ephebophilia (which, unlike hebephilia, concerns late teens) is made perfectly legal since the age of consent is 15. I don't find it inherently wrong, it depends on the particular case. Emotional maturity is a tricky thing, but a friend of mine from high school had a brief relationship with a 22 year-old when she was 16 and she doesn't seem to regret it or anything. And nobody stood there shaking their heads in prudish wrath.

Ephebophilia to me is understandable and somewhat acceptable.
Pedophilia, ie. sexual interest in prepubescent kids is a deviant sexual behavior which is disgusting and unacceptable to me. So there. There is a difference in those words and one is definitely much more excusable than the other.

[(Anonymous)]

I read a lot of fics with a pretty great age difference. The fact is that I ALWAYS identify with the young character.
When I was a teen, I was attracted to adult men. Didn't give a shit about boys of my own age. Thought they were stupid.
I'm pretty much the same still. I always find myself attracted to older men in both RL and fiction.
Many of these comments talk like it's always the older one wanting to rape the younger one or that it's some kind of grooming fantasy. Just pointing out that this goes other way too. I definitely do NOT fantasize about making moves towards teenagers. Nope. I deliberately choose fics etc where it's the younger one that's pulling the reigns.