[ SECRET POST #2667 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2667 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

I really hate professors who refuse to call on the people with their hands raised and insist on sticking with the person who clearly doesn't know the answer. I know this makes me sound like a know it all. But I don't mind cold calling per say. I just hate it when the professor keeps asking the person who doesn't know when there are clearly people that know.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[dreemyweird]

Tbh it makes sense to me. Maybe the person who's being asked will remember. Or maybe the professor will lead them through the process of figuring the answer out, thus helping them to understand it better.

The professors who never notice raised hands, though? Are the worst. (And yes, I'm a know-it-all...)

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe it helps that one person, though I tend to doubt it. Some people just don't process outloud. But its really not useful for the whole class to hear multiple wrong answers and long pauses, though. I feel like in those instances the professor is focusing on one person at the expense of the class as a whole. That sort of thing is more useful for one-on-one meetings.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[dreemyweird]

I guess it depends on the circumstances. I can sort of see what kind of situations you are talking about - I used to witness these cases when a professor would ask a student who not only knew fuck all but was also super unlikely to give anything remotely resembling a reasonable answer.

But I also had professors who'd ask the students who were sort of hazy on the topic and then provide guiding questions for them to follow. And I think it helped, and it wasn't "at the expense of the class". In my experience, when you have a class where this sort of situation is even possible (meaning that not everyone is super enthusiastic about your subject), repeating things is never a bad thing.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[chardmonster]

Yeah, well, instructors really hate the fact that 3/4 of the class is sitting in silence not participating.

when there are clearly people that know.

I assure you sempai has noticed you. I also assure you that know-it-alls who think they're experts on the subject when really they've just managed to finish the day's reading are somehow even more annoying than the silent stonefaces.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

Like I said, I don't mind cold calling if its just a single question per person. Its when they clearly don't know the answer and yet the professor keeps at them that it bugs me. That isn't helpful for anyone else in the class and I don't think its really useful for that person either.

You don't have to think you're an expert to like to answer questions if you think you have an answer.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

It's really not. I had a prof do that and it would last several long, embarrassing moments. The student gives one answer after another until the prof says in an annoyed voice, "Now you're just guessing." Well, no shit. If they had the answer, they would have given it about five minutes ago.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[chardmonster]

Question: what do you think education is for? Is it for the people who already knows the answer or for people who don't?

That isn't helpful for anyone else in the class

No. It isn't helpful for you, for whom this is easy.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

Okay, so what do you recommend when you happen to be the one person who did the readings, and the professor asks a question and there's nothing but stony silence, and you know the answer, but you've already answered...an inordinate amount. How long do you let the silence stretch before you take pity on everyone and raise your hand?

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, god, that was me in so many math classes. "I already answered... I don't want to answer again, no one likes a know-it-all... but no one else is answering... maybe if I wait long enough there'll be a hint, and someone else will answer... they're still waiting... will someone just answer, dammit, we're going to waste the whole period... fine, I'll raise my hand."

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[chardmonster]

At no point was this a question about people not being allowed to raise their hands. It's about the prof not calling on someone she knows knows the answer.

Honestly, if the prof is good, she'll acknowledge the people with their hands up but ask someone who hasn't spoken to say something.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

Yep, pretty sure professors don't ask questions to the class because they want to see the star student that has the right answer. They do it because they want to encourage class participation.
(Still think calling on students that don't want to participate is stupid though)

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

I had a professor in one class who just stopped calling on me and my friend because otherwise we would be the only ones who raised our hands to answer.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

listen, we know people hate Snape already

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[yield]

i hate this too, but that's because i am the type to never raise my hands and i would rather not get called on. class participation can suck my clit. if im paying thousands of dollars i want to be able to sit and absorb (or not, whatever) the information in peace.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[diet_poison]

yeah this. I mean I don't mind raising my hand, but the general idea: we're not in college to stroke professors' egos, we're there, paying a buttload of money, to hopefully get an education, and actually getting that education is ultimately up to us; we do not need "tough love" or pushing or humiliation from professors who don't know or care how we really learn. If sitting quietly in class lets you learn effectively, you should be allowed to do that.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[lunabee34]

I don't think a prof asking students to discuss ideas generally has anything to do with stroking a prof's ego. I know it doesn't for me when I expect my students to be able to respond orally to what they've read. Many times, it's explicitly stated in the student learning outcomes for a course that students be able to make oral arguments about ideas in the course, for example.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

per se

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[herpymcderp]

Not a prof but: lol no, I promise you, we noticed you. But you've probably answered half a dozen questions already, and that guy sitting in the corner picking his nose hasn't said a damn thing all class.

Now he can fail horribly at answering something simple in front of everyone so they all know he's not going to pass the class.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

seriously not everybody who is quiet is lazy or isn't trying to learn, what part of that is so hard for you to grasp

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[herpymcderp]

I didn't say that did I? If you're teaching students for more than a week you know exactly who is lazy, who is just quiet, and who is probably fondling themselves under the table. You get to see all of their work, every test score, and see what they do every class.

You'd have to be an idiot not to realize that.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[yield]

wow. you don't sound like you belong in a teaching environment at all.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[diet_poison]

wait so you are literally trying to humiliate someone in front of his peers for...no other reason than humiliating him in front of his peers

wtf how does that accomplish anything

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[cakemage]

Sometimes, professors call on students who haven't been participating because s/he's trying to help them, not humiliate them. In most of the humanities classes at my uni, for instance, you're graded (in part) by your class participation. In these classes, a professor calling on someone who hasn't been participating is usually trying to:

A) Give the student in question every opportunity to boost his or her grade,
B) Gauge his/her grasp of the material being discussed and if s/he's read it at all,
C) Determine how to help this person understand and engage with the material, if needed,
D) Encourage class discussion,
or
E) All of the above.

If answering questions in class is a serious problem for someone, or if they're having real trouble understanding the reading, then it's up to that person to make sure their teacher knows that as soon as possible so that they can accommodate their needs and/or help them find the right studying approach. Teachers don't always automatically know what's behind a student's difficulties and/or silence in class, and more often than not they really are trying to help the quiet ones by asking them questions as opposed to just giving all the attention to the most active students.

Re: Non-fandom secrets!

[(Anonymous)]

They usually do this to challenge people who may not be as motivated to do well in their class. Believe me, they want their students to succeed and if they don't well then that's down to the campus they work for. Some professors have their own quirks or are grouchy or unpleasant, but for the most part they're just trying to get more active participation.