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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2015-03-25 06:48 pm

[ SECRET POST #3003 ]


⌈ Secret Post #3003 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 043 secrets from Secret Submission Post #429.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Help! I've cut myself on the edginess of this secret!

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fenm: Fish Eye from "Sailor Moon SuperS" (Default)

[personal profile] fenm 2015-03-25 10:56 pm (UTC)(link)
So, people on Tumblr petitioned the government to make it illegal for DC to use the image? No? That's not what happened? Then it didn't get "banned".
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It didn't get banned, it just didn't get published. And it's, I think, pretty obviously Not Cool - not because we need to spare anyone's feelings but because it's in bad fucking taste. And I'm not sure I agree that it's portraying sexual assault as a bad experience; it's certainly portraying a woman being terrified about it but that's not at all the same thing.

Seriously I was reading about the controversy before I saw the cover and I was surprised there was any controversy at all. It seems so clearly and obviously Not OK.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:00 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not offended by it, but isn't it a bit clashy with the lighter tone of her new series?

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
It doesn't even portray sexual assault?

Kind of scary though that the tumblrinas got it banned, makes you wonder what precedent this is going to set at the big two.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:07 pm (UTC)(link)
While this isn't exactly proper use, to people actually think the only people who can ban things are the government???

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The artist himself requested the cover be pulled because people like you were sending death threats to people who were upset. Nice job breaking it, dumbass.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't get the controversy with the cover, either. I don't read the series, and so not knowing what it's referencing, it just looks like a villain terrifying a hero. It's visually powerful and interesting. I like the art a lot. And even if it is referencing a storyline in which she was raped, so what? A cover depicting her being raped would be inappropriate, but I frankly don't see any problem with having a storyline like that, and the cover does not display such a thing. I mean, I'm a feminist, and I'm all about having a discussion about women in comic books and so on, but this controversy is baffling me.

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[personal profile] feotakahari 2015-03-25 11:15 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm not following the new Batgirl comic, but it's apparently meant to be all-ages. I'm not sure that cover really fits that demographic.

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I'm fine with it being released as a print. It really doesn't go with the Babs Tarr Batgirl though.

And Alan Moore is still a pretentious load.

Actually, I've heard that Alan meant it to be a "possible future" and it was Kim Yale and John Ostrander who ran with it as new backstory for Barbara, creating Oracle. So I guess it could have disappeared as a ridiculous, out-of-continuity piece of the 1980's if not for them. Huh.

Bit of a shame that Babs got crippled per AKJ, but the Joker didn't get deaded.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
People who say "and if xyz, you need to get professional help" need professional help to stop being so far up their own assholes.

Like it's ever that simple. Fuck off.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
They should have used this instead.

http://i.imgur.com/TWGsA0f.jpg

VERY NSFW^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
http://www.bleedingcool.com/2015/03/18/albuquerque-was-asked-to-make-batgirl-cover-more-extreme/


fucks sake

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[personal profile] mekkio 2015-03-25 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
1. It wasn't banned. It was scrapped.

2. Look, normally I would be with you but in this case, no. But it's not for the reasons that tumblr put out. The fact is the cover is simply all wrong for the comic.

Have you read the comic?

It's cheesy, campy and fun. It's not dark and gritty. Putting that cover on the Batgirl comic would be like putting The Dark Knight movie cover on a DVD and when you play the DVD, it's the 60's Adam West Batman. It doesn't add up. The cover doesn't fit the comic.

I only wish the artist had been given a second chance to do another cover. With this time having read the comic first, which he clearly did

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cloud_riven: Actor Terry Kinney's bald head sliding up and down from behind a hotdog. (Bosco/Hot Dog = OTP)

[personal profile] cloud_riven 2015-03-25 11:29 pm (UTC)(link)
>banned

(Anonymous) 2015-03-25 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I disagree with your use of the word "ban" but yeah, I'm annoyed the artist felt the need to have it pulled because of internet outrage. :/

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[personal profile] gabzillaz 2015-03-25 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
The cover has nothing to do with the current run, it was a miss from the start. And tumblr didn't ban shit, DC took it down because it was a bad marketing decision and they are a business.

TKJ was a shit story for Barbara Gordon and everything good that came out of it was 1)done by other writers trying to pick up the pieces and 2)erased with the reboot

Besides the artist didn't want it to be published, so...
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[personal profile] dancing_clown 2015-03-25 11:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I recognize your intent, and rather than lose my shit over "OMG YOU USED A WORD WRONGG!!!!!" I'm just going to say I *kind of* agree, in that I hope it at least gets made into a print, but I also totally get and respect why it was pulled.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 12:00 am (UTC)(link)
The Killing Joke is overrated.

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Dude, the people who got it pulled were not the people who complained about. The people who sent actual, genuine, death threats to the people who complained, they convinced the artist that it was the wrong thing to create. He looked at the people who were on his side, and was genuinely sickened and appalled by them and he realized he did not want to be associated with them and that if they were for it, he wanted to be against it.

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[personal profile] iggy 2015-03-26 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
The Killing Joke is a shit story.

Sure they made lemonade from it by making Barbara a capable, heroic, and totally badass disabled character, but the Killing Joke is still shit.

Anyway, I was skeeved out by the cover. Before I even knew about the controversy, when I scrolled down my dash and saw it, I went 'eww'.

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The main reason why people on Tumblr were critical of it wasn't because it depicted anything resembling "rape" or anything like that.

It was because it depicted its heroine threatened, cowering in fear and crying.
Would they ever make a cover with Batman or another male character like that? No.
It's just kind of a shitty double standard.

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(Anonymous) 2015-03-26 12:44 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like the people who "love" this image, and hope it becomes a variant so they can hang up ten copies on their wall, do it more so to be anti-SJW/"tublrina" than because they actually think the picture is that great. It's not that amazing of a cover.

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I would love to see a cover with Batman crying while Bane is holding on to him.

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