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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-06-28 04:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #4923 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4923 ⌋

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[Legend of the White Snake]


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[Komi Can't Communicate]


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(Lucifer, Supernatural)


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[Wheel of Time]


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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 09:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Any hot takes go here

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 09:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't understand why everyone in America is obsessing about mask-wearing so much. The vast majority of Americans are wearing masks! The majority of Americans are wearing masks anytime they enter a public place! More Americans are wearing masks than Canadians. Far more Americans are wearing masks than Brits. More people could be wearing masks but America isn't far behind France or Italy or the Asian countries. And yet because the people who don't wear masks are so vocal and so stupid, mask-wearing is this obsessive concern.

The real problem with American society responding to the virus is our willingness to gather in public places, not our unwillingness to wear masks. I don't know where everyone got this idea that no one in America is wearing masks. It's not true.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 09:42 pm (UTC)(link)
It really depends on the city, though, and even areas within the city. I notice folks on the outskirts of my city are kind of 50-50, while I tend to see a higher percentage wearing masks further in the city (not to mention being more courteous).

But like you said, the stupid ones are also the vocal ones, and that can give a different impression of what is actually going on.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 09:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I think part of the problem is that the people who object to wearing masks are objecting VERY loudly and VERY obnoxiously, and that their objections also come with a lot of ridiculous related baggage such as (but not limited to): conspiracy bullshit, anti-vaxxer bullshit, good old fashioned racism, pathological levels of selfishness, YAY TRUMP, etc. etc.

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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-06-28 09:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I wouldn't say the 'vast majority'. Certainty not the vast majority where I live, where masks are practically non-existent, and weren't terribly visible even when our numbers were going up up up (which they still are, but everyone seems to be ignoring it).

I went to the store over the weekend - I was the only person wearing a mask that I saw other than a few of the employees.

It's an issue.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 09:55 pm (UTC)(link)
they get the idea because in some areas (cities, counties, states), NO ONE IS WEARING THEM.

I can go into one type of store in my city and probably 75% of people are wearing masks. I go down the block to a different store? ZERO. I'm the only one and I get angry.

The problem is, it's not a blanket universal thing everywhere. When the mask usage varies from shop to shop within a city, within a county, within a state, there is no such thing as universal coverage. The only way this is going to work is if we, country-wide, require masks in public in every city and state and if you wanna bitch about it, take it to the fucking Supreme Court but in the meantime enjoy being on 14 days quarantine for not wearing one. We need to bring back the 1918 policy of deputizing citizens to issue fines for not wearing one. All our cities could use a nice little financial windfall from idiots who refuse.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 10:14 pm (UTC)(link)
I mean, I guess? But the only non grocery, laundry, or work things I’ve done since March are go to a BLM protest where everyone was masked and outside, get tested for COVID a week later, and get evaluated for workers’ comp last week after fucking up some tendons while bringing someone their curbside pickup. The riskiest thing I do on the regular is take a bus and trolley to work, where there’s always at least one and usually several other passengers without masks despite it being required statewide.

Yes, people having illicit parties (social gatherings are still banned here) are probably responsible for a lot of spread, but people not wearing masks inside anywhere, legal or not, are still causing problems.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 10:25 pm (UTC)(link)
Americans don't have health care, so if they catch it they die. Wearing a mask is the only safety they have basically.

(not an american btw)

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
At least where I live, the vast majority of people are wearing masks. Which is great, but there are still a few assholes who will put on a mask when a grocery store worker tells them to and them immediately take it off when the worker leaves. There are also many people who leave their noses uncovered or take them off completely when talking to somebody.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-29 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
(british here)

i couldn't give two shits about the mask thing (in the last three months i've been from my house to the supermarket a few times, once into town to meet a friend (social bubbling) and twice into work when my pc had issues)

but i really wish people would learn how to distance properly, and respect when other people are trying to - there's very little more aggravating than hanging back 2m behind the family of five clogging up the aisle at asda only for the person behind you to come charging through everybody

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-29 01:04 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. What happened to social distancing? There are still gatherings with people standing less than six feet apart from each other.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-29 03:11 am (UTC)(link)
I went to a hypermarket last night because I needed a few things and couldn't put if off any longer. It was filled with groups of teenagers hanging out in the store in close proximity without masks.

So, a few hundred people were there and only a small fraction of them were wearing masks and half of those that were weren't wearing them right.

So there's that.

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Anecdotal story: I live in San Jose, California, and went to buy a new refrigerator today (had to, my old one died), and while there were quite a few people in the appliance store, every last one of them was wearing a mask properly and were practicing social distancing. Then I stopped by a big outdoor mall to pick up dinner and only saw a couple of people not wearing masks (they closed the streets through the mall to set up outdoor tables at all the restaurants). So lots of people out and about but most of them were doing what they are supposed to do.
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[personal profile] caecilia 2020-06-29 09:43 am (UTC)(link)
It's a big deal because President Dumptruck politicized something that should be a totally neutral safety precaution. Also in my mother's state nobody is wearing masks. She's at risk every time she goes to the grocery store.

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I think multiculturalism is a failed experiment.

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The trend for wrapping every variation of sexuality with a pseduo-sciencey greco-roman label as a distinct orientation is a big step backwards from admitting that sexuality is complicated, messy, diverse, and perverse.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-28 10:36 pm (UTC)(link)
Kids should be taught and brought up without access to technology, except for:

- Cases where disability or Special educational needs means technology is vital to their development
- IT specific education such as coding
- Some gaming or viewing time at home for very short periods but no Internet or social media.

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I don't understand people who don't have very basic skills that could save your life, or someone else.

CPR, how to swim, how to start a fire, what to do if someone is choking, etc.

Learn!

And fuck it, I'm adding basic adult shit to the list too. If you can't do laundry or cook or clean a bathroom properly I'm judging the shit out of you. Your parents never taught you? Boo fuckity hoo. Teach your damn self.

Too many fucking people just pickling themselves in their own sealed jars of incompetence and not continuing to learn and grow and better themselves.

We who bothered to are not your mamas.

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tbh I don't give a flying fuck if so-and-so author is black/asian/white/whatever. I don't give a flying fuck if that store is ~minority owned~.

I resent that I'm supposed to give a fuck about who owns the shit I want to buy. I don't care. If I like your product, I'll buy it. I don't give a crap about your story and where you came from and why your tragic tale means I should buy your product.

If I like your product, I'll buy your product. I don't care where you came from or what color your skin is or what your cultural roots are.

I just don't.

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I am absolutely bewildered by the hypocrisy of some mass protests being OK and others not being OK in the midst of a global pandemic that disproportionately targets the very people whose protests are lauded by the media and state and local governments.

And I think the uptick in cases in the US is at least partially due to all the protests.

And I don't understand how this is a controversial opinion, and in fact, I think the majority of people who haven't been indoctrinated into this weird quasi-religious, ideological cult mentality on the left or right are sitting around as bewildered as I am and wondering why the hell they can't go to work when they see thousands of people crammed in together on the streets.

But anyway I certainly expect it to be a controversial opinion on FS.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-29 01:27 am (UTC)(link)
I fully support the protests that have been going on but I do not get the people defending some of the looting and property destruction as 'revenge against capitalist oppressors' or whatever. Like someone posted a picture of a smashed up liquor store and defended it as 'preying on a poor community by supplying them with alcohol' or somesuch and...what now? For one thing, it looked like a small family-owned place and I don't see how you're sticking it to the man or protesting against systemic racism by destroying the livelihood of someone who is probably just trying to get by.

Or even looting Target,or setting fire to a Wendys. Yes, these corporations can afford it and they probably do take advantage of minority communities with low paying jobs and all that. But that Target has a manager, and store associates, and people stocking the shelves, and we're in a fucking pandemic where these people probably need their jobs to get by, and you just destroyed their workplace. I'm not worried about the billionaire CEO of Target, I'm worried about the people who worked at that store and needed that income and now are probably panicked and uncertain about if they can pay their rent because people decided to destroy their workplace. Just because the protests are just doesn't mean everything they do is right and that people can't suggest that just maybe destroying businesses does nothing to help their cause and only hurts innocent people in the end.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-29 03:38 am (UTC)(link)
[cults tw I guess, nothing graphic though]

I'm sick of the way cults are typically treated in fiction and in fandom. I try not to take it personally, because a lot of people saying stuff that bothers me legitimately just don't know better, but seeing people treating cults like a joke-y abstract absurd thing that could never actually happen and not as a real thing that real people have experiences with makes me feel like shit (not getting into it but yeah, I am a cult survivor). I'm also sick of like, seeing true crime fan style voyeurism into real cults without any actual sympathy towards cult victims.

Cults come up in a few of my fandoms, because I can appreciate fiction that treats the topic respectfully, but that's apparently too much to ask from the fandom, and it's frustrating. I wish this was a less controversial opinion and that it didn't end up coming across like "no fun allowed" when I've tried saying something sometimes, or that at least fandom friends would be more understanding of why I didn't personally want to read their "sexy cult" fanfic or whatever, LOL.

It's just something I wish that people were more willing to be sympathetic to, I guess.

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-29 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
I think a lot of these opinions are being made by the same person...

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(Anonymous) 2020-06-29 01:00 pm (UTC)(link)
Cultural conservatives have been more successfully "canceling" people since the Anita Bryant era. Spouting off about a celeb on twitter really doesn't do anything.