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⌈ Secret Post #2046 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Sex with thirteen year old girls, let's keep in mind.


(I personally think GRRM was going for historical accuracy by making so many of his female characters young, but it still comes across as skeevy)

[(Anonymous)]

So, lets talk about how JK Rowling wrote about lots of people dying.

This means she might have serial killer tendencies, right? And she might have some weird adolescent fetish too, because some of them were teenagers.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, please. You know that's not the same at all. Quit playing.

[(Anonymous)]

da

Dude, totally different. The fact that he wrote pretty graphic sex scenes with barely-adolescent girls being molested by much-older men is skeevy, because you have to think about him thinking about those sex scenes. Plus the scenes were just skeevy to begin with. I mean, there's historical realism, but did they have to be graphic ffs?

But you're just extrapolating on completely random, differently valued things. Just saying it doesn't make them equal.

[(Anonymous)]

You can write sexual situations, even graphic ones without being into the kinks or situations presented in it. Everything is graphic in the books. If he'll be graphic about decapitations and flaying, he'll be graphic about the sex too.

[(Anonymous)]

That was part of the story. And yes, of the "historical accuracy", even in the land he created (it's obviously the Middle Ages + magic and some details he decided to change), and it makes a lot of difference in the plot.

Idk. I don't really see thirteen year old girls having sex as something inherently bad (it CAN be bad, though, it depends on how you do it), because I started having sex around that age (12, in fact). I wanted it. I did it because I already had sexual desire, like most of teenagers. Why is it bad that this is described in literature?

[(Anonymous)]

Well, a) pretty sure none of the 12 year old girls in the book actually want to have sex and b) they all have sex or are expected to have sex with men 2-3 times their age.

[(Anonymous)]

Dany does (you can argue that not at first, and it's true, but just in some parts of the first book).

[(Anonymous)]

a) in middle ages women didn't have a choice nor a voice and v) women are INDEED EXPECTED to have sex with men 2-3 times their age. Now, it's in THEIR culture, which is way different than ours. Get your facts right and stop being so ethnocentric, you make me wanna puke.

[(Anonymous)]

I didn't know that SJW could time-travel.

[insanenoodlyguy]

a) and v)

... LEARN TO ALPHABET

[(Anonymous)]

Sure, but did the scenes have to be graphic and written in a manner that was meant to titillate? Dur.

[(Anonymous)]

Amen, sister!

Unfortunately, people are still very uncomfortable with the concept of a woman enjoying and craving sex. People don't get nearly as bothered if the teenager in question is male.

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, it's because we all prudes and cannot appreciate the genius of graphic underage bestiality incest rape.

[(Anonymous)]

Rape is rape, regardless of age. But I don't believe in shaming consensual sex.

[(Anonymous)]

There's a massive difference between writing about 12 year old girls having sex because you're interested in female sexuality, and writing about 12 year old girls having sex because you have a raging hard-on for man/girl relationships.

[(Anonymous)]

True, that being said, it's pretty normal for teenage girls to desire an older man. I did, when I was that age.
Would you find the subject material acceptable it was a woman write her turn-on was older man/teenage girl?

[(Anonymous)]

THIS. Besides, there are lots of young boys in the books who not only want sex, but they are not virgins anymore. What about that? No one gets uncomfortable when the boys want it.

Yes, many women in the books are forced to start a sexual life when they are not ready or willing. But others want it, and that shouldn't be a problem (Cersei and Jaime started really soon, Dany likes sex, Asha is quite proud of her sexuality and desires as well and she was probably like that when she was younger, etc etc etc).

[(Anonymous)]

Thank you! Someone that gets it. I don't know a lot about this series in particular, but I do take issue in shaming of young women's sexuality.

Rape is wrong. Being forced into any sexual activity is wrong.

But I have problem when a young woman CHOOSES to have sex/expressed her sexuality, and everyone turns around and tells her she's 'confused' and she doesn't know what she's talking about. Don't people understand how demeaning that is to women? If teenage boy can choose to have sex, so can teenage girls. They are just as capable as any male their age.

[(Anonymous)]

Would you say the same about teenager boys?

[(Anonymous)]

If they were forced like the girls are? Yes.

Besides, the implication that attraction to boys is icky, while everyone has a boner to girls, is there in the books.

[(Anonymous)]

If they're forced that's totally wrong.

But I thought some of the relationships were consensual? (ie. Dany/Drogo)

[(Anonymous)]

This.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh wow, don't you know ANYTHING at all about the medieval age? His books are based in a world with a medieval age like ours, so it's common there are 13 years old girls marrying guys older than them. IT'S HOW THEIR CULTURE WORKS, IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH YOURS!!!

[(Anonymous)]

STOP OPPRESSING THE MEDIEVAL PPL