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⌈ Secret Post #2693 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

04. http://i.imgur.com/mOoth4E.gif

[iceyred]

People care about their ships being canon because they, for whatever reason, need outside validation that their opinions and shipping preferences are 'correct.' They and their opinions are srs bsns.

[solticisekf]

Because you have your pairing IN canon, meaning you can enjoy tender moments between the two.

[(Anonymous)]

One thing I've recently learned is how insecure some shippers are, and they need CONSTANT validation of their ship being canon and/or endgame just so they can be "right" and "win" over anyone else.

[(Anonymous)]

It's not the default among people who don't like Eridan... or even a lot of the more thoughtful people who do like Eridan.

[writerserenyty]

If it's a canon ship that means there will be presumably more moments in canon to enjoy.

[intrigueing]

I like the idea of an already-canon ship becoming endgame if the characters' romance is like, an important part of their canonical character arcs. But IDGI with this obsession about a non-canon ship becoming canon. Just...why? What is the big deal? How does it affect the story as a whole? I understand wishing it would become canon in order to get canonical stories with the ship, but the intense *need* really eludes me. Maybe because I just don't really care that much about romance, but unless the romance is really important to the individual characters involved, I guess it just feels like "and this is so important because...?"

Actually, same with those shippers who go "lol, we all know they just *have* to be in love. There's no way they're not in love." When in fact, there's a whole lot of ways the characters might not be romantically in love without it being a denigration of the characters' worth or their non-romantic relationship's importance. The weird "romance = validation" thing weirds the hell out of me. (This was really especially gross in Harry Potter fandom, where it seemed like a lot of shippers didn't really care about, say, Harry/Hermione as a relationship, but just wanted Hermione to be validated as The Best Female Character by getting deemed worthy of being fucked by The Chosen One. Ew.)

[blunderbuss]

Oh OP, everyone cares. Because by being official it finally proves that their OTP is the 'right' choice and proves all those other non-canon shippers were wrong all along. Only the true OTP shippers saw the purity of their love and were rewarded! Nyah nyah, I told you so, etc and so forth.

There's a reason why it's called shipping WARS. It's not about preferences or opinions, it's about WINNING.

[fingalsanteater]

Oh look. Someone whose pairing IS canon telling people with non-canon ships how to feel. Plus, you know, you are complaining about the shipping in Homestuck any practically nobody cares about actually shipping canon ships in that fandom.

[visp]

But if it's a canon ship you get onscreen/written cuddles/smoochies/buttsex/whatevers.

I actually actively Do Not Want my ships to be canon.

[(Anonymous)]

I lose all interest in reading fic with ships as a focus when the romance is/becomes canon.

[blueonblue]

Many years ago, I shipped Spike/Buffy - now I don't really want my OTPs to be canon.

[(Anonymous)]

For me, part of it is a reality vs. wishful thinking thing. Like, if I ship X/Y strongly and X/Z happened instead, I feel less satisfied because I know that in order to keep shipping them, I have to rewrite canon in my mind and in a sense not wake up and smell the roses. Of course, you can still write fix it fic or insert an encounter where they do get together or whatnot, but you mostly have to ignore reality. Similarly, it's like if a character gets killed off -- it doesn't stop you from writing fic for the time when they're still alive or writing an AU where they didn't die, but at the end of the day, you have to accept they're dead and that's kind of a downer.

The other thing (maybe similar) is that a romantic storyline is like other kinds of storylines -- it's part of a character development arc. If early on you think X/Y is happening and that makes you more interested in the canon, and then X/Y peters out into nothing or X/Z happens instead, it gives me this feeling of unresolvedness or a missed opportunity for a strong finish to that character arc.

I agree with others that part of it is the ability to get more moments for the pairing in canon, as well as the whole "validation that I'm right" thing (but more in a "So I'm not crazy for thinking there was something going on between those two! Yes!" kind of way). You have a point, though, that when the fandom as a whole is cool with disregarding canon and ships the non-canon pairing, then your OTP being canon won't magically make you happy. Juggernaut pairing vs. unpopular pairing issues, heh.

[kallanda_lee]

Well, one big perk is that if it's a visual medium you'll actually see them making out.

[diet_poison]

I don't really get everyone's complex reasoning on this, I guess for me, I like things to become canon because...then they're canon. And if they're not canon, that's okay - a little disappointing, but that's what fic is for.

[(Anonymous)]

I suppose that given the choice, I would rather have an OTP that's beloved by fandom than an OTP that's canon. But if I could I would take both, of course.

(I guess I also have a pretty good eye for what's likely to be canon - nothing in the vein of the classic Delusional Johnlock Shipper, for example - so when I ship things I know are unlikely, I run with it and have fun. When I ship something that really feels like it has a shot, but it doesn't make it, I'm kind of devastated.)

[nightscale]

I don't need any of my non-canon ships to be canon in order to enjoy them, but I'd be lying if I said part of me wouldn't be happy about it if they did. I've had ships stay non-canon and I've had some become canon and tbh, it's kind of nice when it happens.

But I'll grant a lot of the time it does seem to come off as internet pissing contests over which ship is 'better'.

[(Anonymous)]

Personally I'd enjoy having pictures of my OTP making out or lying in bed together or cuddling. Instead of crappy fanmade photomanips, if that. So to me that's the main appeal of my pairings becoming canon - not to get more fanfic, but to get to WATCH them be together on screen.

[elaminator]

I'm not overtly concerned with my ships being canon. I know the majority don't stand a chance, and even if they did there's always the possibility TPTB would mess up the relationship. In some ways there's an allure to ships becoming canon, what with the thought getting all those things you love in the actual media, but... I ship what I like, canon or non-canon, and that ain't changing.

[ninety6tears]

I don't always want my ships to be canon but I mean...I would think it would be pretty self-explanatory that if you think A and B would be happier together, that that's where you'd want the story to go. And let's not forget that canon pairings tend to follow really predictable patterns (more so in some mediums than others maybe) and wanting a different relationship to be explored romantically can be a desire to see more unconventional dynamics explored and represented. I'd say the ideal is that the relationship is explored enough that I have something to work with but not necessarily having a chance of being endgame.

[ziltoidianrapture]

I used to be so delighted by the fact the every once in a while one of my ships became canon.

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I'm blaiming Whedon for all of my non-canon ships.

[(Anonymous)]

People want what they can't have. This has been news since precisely never.

[caecilia]

That's cause Homestuck is huge and has a million characters and 'canon' ships usually get broken up and/or brutally murdered, and both Sollux and Feferi have been dead/not really important to the plot for a long time. People tend to forget about things that happened a while ago and move on to the shiny newer characters. It's not like this is the only not-so-popular ship in Homestuck. Dude, my ship is Rosejade. They talk once in canon. At least you have this (link is a flashing gif). I'm sure there's stuff out there though (see: huge fandom). Have you tried the Homestuck shipping world cup/olympics? Anyway, people like their ships to be canon because it means they were right. Being right is satisfying. Ah, Gamrezi. How I wish you had just remained subtext.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, man, I HEAR YOU, OP! It was a Big Deal in some circles when TPTB confirmed CloudxTifa for FFVII. The rest of fandom pretty much went, "That's nice, dears," and went back to EveryGuy/Cloud.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't really care about being right or validation or whatever, I just want more interaction between characters I ship and them being canon would be a good way to get it. And pretty much the only way really since basically all of my fandoms are really obscure and super small and within the tiny fandoms, I only seem to ship the rare pairings that have zero fanfic (or zero good fanfic).