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⌈ Secret Post #5479 ⌋

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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01. https://i.imgur.com/eLRYqxk.png

[philstar22]

How did I not know of these? I'd personally love any of the Valdemar books to be adapted. But now I need to hunt for this series too.

Edit: and now I've ordered the first one from Amazon to arrive tomorrow so I can read it on my vacation this weekend.

[(Anonymous)]

I started reading this series just last week and so far I'm enjoying the world building details about the dragons! I kind of wish that Naomi Novik's dragon books were this thoughtful but I remember being rather disappointed by them.

[(Anonymous)]

I read the first two of these books YEARS ago and remember almost nothing about them except that I'm pretty sure the culture was based on ancient Egypt. Maybe I should pick em up again

[(Anonymous)]

If anything dragons, CGI money pits that they are, scare off studios/producers.

[(Anonymous)]

It's because many executives care less about actual social justice and representation than paying lip service to the least possible amount it can get away with.

[(Anonymous)]

I've wanted to do an AU version of these books for at least 2 of my fandoms. I have a lot of fondness for these books, though I haven't read them in years.

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02. https://i.imgur.com/2ADA2V2.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, I don't think you're wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't doubt you but there are still people who understand the source language and prefer genuine honorifics because, yes, they do convey a nuance that many western naming customs don't cover. Chinese style names are, as far as I can tell, even more nuanced and subtle than ye old sama/san/kun distinction so if that nuance is important, keep it and include notes on why the character is using it that way. there's nothing wrong with people in other cultures learning things.

[(Anonymous)]

Shrug. Sometimes those short-syllable honorifics convey a *lot* of information about how characters feel they relate to each other. While there are times when there's an easy English equivalent, sometimes translating is clunky at best. (Alternatively, I can use other markers - formality of language etc. - but, well. That can get clunky, too.)

When I'm writing fic, 'how characters feel they relate to each other' comes up a good deal. If there's an easy English equivalent I'll use it, sure - but if the fandom is already familiar with these terms, then senpai, shixiong, and gege are all fair game.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think it's fetishism for the majority of the people who get insistent about honorifics, I think their lack of understanding of the language and the explanations they hear, often from native speakers, make them believe for real that the words are more unique than they really are.

And I've seen many cases where a native speaker may not consider the word necessary to keep in a translation, but at the same time they'll explain their reason as "Well it means *explanation of the meaning* but there's no word for that in English and you wouldn't understand it," almost in this patronizing tone of "This word is too deep for you, so just make do without it in your English translation, which will inevitably lose a big part of the original nuance, but that's just how it has to be, siiigh." TBH this happens with words in all kinds of languages, not just honorifics in East Asian languages.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, honestly? I think it's because once you've experienced a couple translations that keep them, you pick them up like you would any new word (i.e., enthusiastically, naturally, and not entirely accurately.) And once you've adopted them into your personal lexicon, it seems pointless and awkward to try to work around them. People don't think about it that way so the justifications are usually bad, but I've read plenty of books and watched plenty of shows in English that expected me to pick up new honorifics and naming customs on the fly, so why not.

[(Anonymous)]

This isn't just limited to Asian languages though. Just take the tons of international noble titles that sometimes can't be translated into English because they never existed in Britain. Or have different meanings than their English counterparts re:standing in society or function depending on the country. You wouldn't just drop them in a translation, nor would you just translate them with something kinda similar but not the exactly correct title.

Do translators that work with historical texts set in Europe fetishize those titles as well in you opinion or do you reserve that derision for Asian languages? Because that just sounds like you are the one putting those Asian languages on a pedestal and othering them unnecessarily.

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[(Anonymous)]

I haven't watched this show but I feel that way about other things. I want things to commit one one way or the other, put the effort in.

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[(Anonymous)]

Awwww, I used to ship them before I knew what shipping was. (I still ship them, but I used to, too.) :D

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[(Anonymous)]

Same boat! I wasn't big on it but I thought it was a cute ship. But then...yeah, fandom. I couldn't escape it and I don't even interact with SPN circles.

Also an aside: fandom ruined my enjoyment of the characters individually as well.

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[(Anonymous)]

same, anon. same.

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Music artists you discovered on Youtube

[philstar22]

Are there any music artists you discovered through Youtube?

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