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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-11-21 06:36 pm

[ SECRET POST #2150 ]


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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:33 am (UTC)(link)
It's not only not used in the same way, it doesn't even have the same meaning. It isn't sexist and it isn't used to be sexist. The biggest problem with SJWs in fandom is that most are Americans and you ascribe *your* personal or cultural meanings to *us* because while you frequently go on and on and fucking on about acceptance and understanding, you don't mean any of it. You mean you want the rest of the world to fall in line with whatever is the trendy American issue of the day. So when you say it's sexist or complain about us using it, try to remember that not everyone lives where you do and the cultural meanings and usages are not the same.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, it does.

What the fuck?

Cunt is cunt. It means female genitalia. It's an insult because it's a vulgar word for female genitalia.

Unless you have some magical new meaning that doesn't have, at it's route, the association with female genitalia?

PS I'm not American, so lol.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:48 am (UTC)(link)
No, it doesn't. It means that you, but it doesn't mean that here.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Lol, okay then, what does it mean in England? And I'm not talking about the 'well it's commonly used as a term of endearment' sort of meaning, tell me what the actual word means.

I eagerly await your response.
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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-11-22 02:50 am (UTC)(link)
ITT, cunts fail to understand the idea of context.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
I sincerely hope someone rips your face open with a rusted railway spike.

Almost there.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:52 am (UTC)(link)
ITT, insanenoodlyguy is a sexist doucherag. As per usual.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
yep, go tell them noodles

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
a non-American saying female genitalia instead of vagina? yeah, right.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
Female genitalia are made up of more than just the vagina!

The More You Know

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:02 am (UTC)(link)
Exactly. And cunt means vagina, not female genitalia.

The More You Know. (why is that capitalised?)

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_More_You_Know

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
Awesome used to mean "really grievously terrible". Now it doesn't. Similarly, "cunt" started off being about female genitalia. Now, in some dialects, it isn't.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:54 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so what does it mean now?

And don't say "it's just an insult, it doesn't have any particular meaning or association with genitalia at all! It's just a bad word!" because that's bullshit and you know it.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
sometimes it's a fucking interjection

(note: that does not mean it is an interjection which is having sex.)

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, okay, fuck is used as an expletive too. So is shit.

They still mean "sex" and "poop".

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
I honestly don't think you understand my meaning here.

Just because it's used as a swear doesn't somehow magically erase the root meaning of the word.


Also, I just realized I've been spelling root wrong throughout the rest of this thread. Woops.

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:01 am (UTC)(link)
you say the funniest things. you rant about "route" meanings (maybe you meant root?) and then you use bullshit

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:06 am (UTC)(link)
it's a vernacular term. You may be squeamish enough to regard it as vulgar. It's no more or less insulting than dick or arsehole or any other word for a body part. Tone and context matter when it comes to swearing.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:17 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, and the fact that there are several more swearwords that have to do with cis female anatomy than have to do with male or gender-neutral anatomy is totally not part of the context of what makes cunt a sexist swear at all, right?

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:24 am (UTC)(link)
You sure about that? Off the top of my head, I can think of tons of swearwords referencing male anatomy but very few referencing female anatomy. Care to give me a list?

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(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:41 am (UTC)(link)
Cunt still means vagina.

Thus using cunt as an insult is saying that vaginas are bad.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I hope you don't swear at all, in that case, given that most swear word reference genitals (female and male), sexual acts and acts of excretion.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 02:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind using swears that aren't discriminatory.

All the excretion ones and many of the sexual act ones are fine.

(Anonymous) 2012-11-22 03:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Okay show your work on that one. Something with a bit more substance than "ooh, sexism exists and cunt means female genitals therefore every instance of the use of that word is about hating women" as if that applied universally.