[ SECRET POST #3035 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #3035 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 04 pages, 081 secrets from Secret Submission Post #434.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Mine's below. Feel free to add your own question or vent about others "doing it wrong".

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I made a prompt on a kink meme that was filled, which is awesome. However, after reading the story, I wanted the main character to be informed what he did wrong and see his reaction to it. I did say something about this in the prompt but there was other stuff too, which is what the Filler went for.

So, I don't want to be an entitled jackass, and I certainly wouldn't demand more. I personally really dislike comments that come across as only wanting more (like that's the only reason they commented) and not appearing grateful for what is there. But I recently read a bunch of stuff about commenting that's been going around tumblr and some authors seemed very pleased with getting this kind of thing. They take it as a sign of interest. And some authors seem to take it as just an additional prompt, which is what I would hope to convey.

Basically, is there a way to ask if there could be another short one-shot exploring what happened next without sounding entitled or pushy? Or is there a way to feel out an author's willingness to be given an additional prompt (I feel like even asking can come across as pushy)? Or should I just thank them and move on?

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

"ty so much your story filled me with glee and delight i dont know if this is done or you plan to continue this but i would love to see timmy's reaction to w/e if you plan to continue or do a sequel i would read that so hard omg tyvm"

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe ask them if they are open to critique but don't say much beyond that before they respond.

It's hard to tell if you don't know a person though, my instinct is to say thank them and move on. You didn't pay for this story so it can be something that can very easily go into entitled and pushy territory.

Whatever you decide be super polite about it.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Just say to them you're grateful and that you loved the fic and end with a small mention that, although you know it's finished, it made you want to see what happened next.
If the author doesn't plan on writing more, then they won't feel pressured; but if they feel like writing more they could see it as an encouragement.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

It's a tricky one, because like you say some authors take "this was great, I'd love to see more!" as enthuiastic and inspiring, and others take is as pressurising and demanding.

It also depends how the author sees kinkmeme fills in the first place. Some people see them as writing prompts, and some people see them as no-strings gifts. If your author is the former, then again, more inspiration might be just what they're looking for. If they though they were just leaving a gift, they might see asking for another gift as being entitled.

Given that this is a kink meme and (presumably?) the author is anon, then it's impossible to know on which side of the fence they fall. You could try something like your first comment here suggested, because that way you're expressing gratitude for what's already written and giving the writer more to work with should they feel so inspired.

Whatever you decide, be gracious and don't have too many expectations and you won't go too far wrong.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree with tumblr fans who think they are allowed to tell other people what content is allowed and how to tag on someone's personal blog. I think it's super entitled and annoying to tell someone else how to run their blog, if you don't like it, unfollow.

Tagging for triggers or putting something under a cut is a courtesy but not everyone is going to do it. Back in the day tags were used for organization, and that's how many people still use them.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[elaminator]

I've never seen this! (Which isn't to say it doesn't happen, but I don't run across it.)

In these kinds of situations I don't understand why people don't go ahead and unfollow. You might not like what the user posts, but THEY do or they wouldn't be posting it. Unfollowing is easy! (I would rather someone unfollow me than hate all my posts and start to resent me or whatever.)

Tagging for triggers is a nice courtesy and I wouldn't personally be annoyed if someone asked (nicely!) if I could, but the thing with me is...I don't really know what people need tagged. (I've seen tw: food, tw: gore, etc, so I tend to just tag 'food' and 'gore', but other than those two...I'm not sure.)

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I see it a lot. You may not see it if people don't bother you specifically because not everyone answers their asks publicly, but I have friends with popular blogs who deal with it all the time.

I even have a friend who has had people bother them about things that if you scrolled their blog for 5 seconds, you could see it's a common theme and you'd be much better off unfollowing them then bothering them to trigger warning all their posts.


I follow the "I will tag for extreme things but I'm not going to follow every little phobia" rule. Otherwise I just tag what the post is related to. Plus I figure that if someone is really triggered by like, food, they will already have the "food" tag blocked and they shouldn't need to specific 'tw:food'.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[diet_poison]

I think there are people who say, "tell me your weird triggers and I will tag them" which is really considerate, but it's also voluntary, and I wouldn't be surprised if there are now people expecting people to do it by default (maybe even people they don't follow).

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I sometimes feel that people seeing/reading my fics and other posts depends on me getting the timing right. And it drives me nuts. Not all of us can/should post from work.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

people who say don't follow my (public) blog unless i follow you first annoy me to no end

also anyone who puts an ip mapper on their blog has control issues

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

People who expect follow backs crack me up because I have too many followers to follow everyone back. I would never be able to get through all the blogs that follow me.

Follow a blog you like because you like it, not for any desperation for followers. It's obnoxious to expect people to follow you because you follow them.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I will never understand why "Don't tag your hate" is such a popular thing in fandom.

If I write a post about an issue I have with a character (say, Tony Stark for instance), I really don't get why people get so angry that I tagged it as "Tony Stark."

That is literally the most relevant tag and I want to be able to find my posts about Tony Stark all under one tag.

If you don't like it, then don't keep reading and don't reblog. Simple right?

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

+1 The "don't tag your hate" thing bothers me because there are some of us out there who actually WANT to see the hate. Even in things I love I like reading thoughtful critique.

People need to learn to scroll and not take their fandoms so personally.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

Fuck yes this.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mind critical meta getting tagged, but just bitching about a character in the tag seems like the poster wants to stir up shit.

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[aboutelle]

There's a difference between an issue with a character or "thoughtful critique" as the anon above said and hate, though. I get that everything that's not "this character is a literal ray of sunshine and can do absolutely no wrong" gets labelled as hate by some people - and that's the real issue here imo - but as someone who loves characters that are hated in fandom I'm getting real tired of getting a notification that there's a new post in the character tag only to see it's another post calling that character a slut/whore/bitch.

I mean, why do (general) you need to tag a post like that? You're clearly not looking for a thoughtful discussion of this character's flaws or a dialogue about the writing or whatever. And is it really that important to you to organize all the times you called the character a slut under one neat link on your blog? /2cents

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[were_lemur]

Because Tumblr literally won't let you scroll past something without reading it?

Because Tony Stark is a real person and would be sad to find your rant when he reads his own tag?

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[diet_poison]

I think it's just because people browse the character tags for all of Tumblr

though I still agree with you tbh

Re: Fandom Etiquette

[(Anonymous)]

I love the atmosphere of kink memes.

Like, as a writer, it's amazing. It's a space specifically for people who want you read something you've written, so they're invested in it, and the usual awkward social convention of "oh I'd love it if you wrote me this thing - but I understand you're busy and blah blah blah!" is done away with. Once I filled a prompt, thought I was done with it, and promptly wound up writing the next two parts of the story because the comments below were so fascinated with it and wanted to see more of it. It was so validating and so creative.

Don;t complain in tags!!

[(Anonymous)]

I can't stand (moslty fanartists) who go "Don't talk about what you don't like about this art in the tags." Or "Don't tag this picture of Steve/Tony is with [INSERT WHITE BRUNETTE/BLONDE PAIRING]" because "Artists read ALL the tags anyone tags something with and it is mean/disrespectful".

Shut up. Those are people talking in their tags. Be glad they didn't reblog it and it the discussion to the main post.

Re: Don;t complain in tags!!

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, what's the difference between putting it in the tags and putting it in the main post? Any artist who cares about what kind of discussion you add to their post is going to see it either way.

If you really want what you're saying about a post to be private or treated as private, put it on a new post under a readmore, or post it to a private blog or something.

Re: Don;t complain in tags!!

[(Anonymous)]

I partially agree with you but on the other hand, it really bothers me when people, for example, take a set of character gifs you've made and tag them with "fandom racism" "anti-black racism" or "whitewashing."

I've seen this happen to people that make pastel gifsets of black characters.

I also saw it happen to one person who made a 60s version of the Avengers. They included one gif of Thor walking away from Loki but didn't include Fury. And so they were accused of excluding Nick Fury while promoting Loki as an Avenger.

I don't agree with that in the slightest.

Re: Don;t complain in tags!!

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, it's kind of disrespectful either way though. Tag for organization on an art piece, keep your opinions to yourself.

If you seriously want to critique an artist, doing it in the tags is not a great way. First find out if they are open to critiques, then talk to them DIRECTLY and not through the tags (this is one way deviantart is better then tumblr, because you can ask for critiques and there are comment threads.)

And if you want to talk about something related to the art (like feelings on a ship) put it in another post and not the main art post.