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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2012-12-21 06:44 pm

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[personal profile] fscom 2012-12-21 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2012-12-21 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
Pretty much, but...were you really that surprised that victim blaming and rape apologia came from a group of people who constantly talk about raping/having sex with underaged ponies?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Maybe the poor bastard didn't hang around that part of the fandom.

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[personal profile] insanenoodlyguy 2012-12-22 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
I really thing that you should only hate some bronies. Like most fandoms, there are x % of scum, and then perfectly reasonable people. We have to not get them mixed up and over generalize.

Don't hate all bronies, just hate the scum.

And by scum, I mean the ones that don't know Rarity is best pony, and that fucking her marshmallow butthole non-consensually is what is best in life.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah pretty much. I'm cool with dudes watching shows for little girls, that doesn't bother me. But, separate and unrelated to that, bronies are the fucking worst, many of them are completely terrible, the whole brony movement is full of terrible shit for several reasons. In fact, I would draw a distinction between male fans of MLP in general and bronies specifically, precisely because the latter are so fucking poisonous.

And in my experience most discussion of MLP fandom recognizes this more or less... at least within fandom / on the Internet anyway.
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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-12-22 01:03 am (UTC)(link)
In fact, I would draw a distinction between male fans of MLP in general and bronies specifically

Yeah. I don't think this even really needs to be said. Anyone who tries to paint all male fans with the same brush is an idiot. And there are male fans who call themselves "bronies" who don't know about and/or don't associate themselves with the online brony monstrosity.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
Oh, that's certainly one of the WORST things they've done, but definitely not the only thing. There was the harassment and death/rape threats they hurled at Yamino after the whole Pony-Who-Shall-Not-Be-Named debacle, the disgusting porn they drew of Lauren Faust's ponysona, and a whole slew of other minor disturbances.

Not to mentioned they've always been an entitled, creepy bunch of manchildren who act like they are the only demographic that matters in the world and constantly whine about how a show for LITTLE GIRLS doesn't cater enough to THEM, those poor adult, straight, white males.

(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 12:29 am (UTC)(link)
Oh Derpy-gate, how amusing and sad you were. I'm glad she's not really in the show anymore, though she's been replaced with Lyra/BonBon as the token BG ponies.

I hope they have one offhanded comment about her being Ditzy-Doo, just to see them froth. :B

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 12:51 am (UTC)(link)
And the whole thing with PurpleTinker. Just because she didn't act with infinite patience of a saint doesn't mean that she deserves all the shit the other "BNFs" were dragging her through.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 05:27 am (UTC)(link)
Urgh Derpy Gate

I don't get why Brony feelings were treated as more important than, oh I don't know, the complaints made by Mothers of the Target Audience and the target audience itself?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 12:48 am (UTC)(link)
Well, some people hate bronies because of that, and some people do really hate bronies because they're guys watching a "girls'" show, or because they're awkward and weird (I don't use these as insults,) or any of those reasons. (I'm a female casual fan, here, for context.) Rape is a good reason to hate rapists, it's not a good reason to hate people who like things that the rapists like (unless that thing is actually, you know, rape.)

I'm not defending rapists, I'm just saying that innocent people who share a hobby with someone who's done something atrocious don't deserve to get caught in the crossfire. Direct your anger appropriately.

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Except we have bronies defending bronies for simply being bronies. Plus I don't think in even Harry Potter fandom we had people defending real life rapists. Not to my knowledge anyway. Even if HP fandom at its height maybe helped boost fandom wank in general to the stratosphere as the internet was kicking things up a notch.

Brony is also really an optional term, and while it's sad it's been tarnished for those GOOD bronies out there, it's well... optional to associate yourself with this. If you don't want to be associated with these types of people you either order a mass campaign to kick them out or just call yourself a fan. Or maybe both.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 01:02 am (UTC)(link)
And what, pray tell, makes you think the anger is NOT directed appropriately? People who identify as bronies deserve what they get for the tacit support they provide to their rapist, sexually harrassing brethren. They've all been assholes at some point. You're being one now.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2012-12-22 01:10 am (UTC)(link)
You feel like an idiot for defending the whole fandom? Part of it?

If you mean you defended the specific part of it that was shitty, yeah, I can see what you mean. At least now you know :)

And of course, the whole fandom isn't bad. Not all bronies are bad, though several of them DEFINITELY are. I do wish fandom as a whole spoke out against them more...
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[personal profile] forgottenjester 2012-12-22 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
I swear, pony fandom is the scariest fandom I have come across and that is saying a lot.

[personal profile] ex_mek82 2012-12-22 02:27 am (UTC)(link)
Yeeeeah, I'm inclined to agree.

imho, the only ones that come close are Homestuck, Supernatural, and either Sherlock or Avengers (your pick). But Bronies... they're something else altogether.

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[personal profile] femme_androgyne 2012-12-22 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
I wanted to stick up for bronies at first, too, OP. Mostly just because my older brother is a fan of the show, so he tends to get stuck with the label automatically--he's really, really not a brony, though. Unless you were defending them in the face of actual evidence that they're jerks, I don't see how you did anything wrong. If someone just says "Bronies are gross!", and you respond, "Says who? And why. They're nothing wrong with liking kids' shows.", and they never get back to you with anything substantial, then how are you supposed to know that they have good reasons for their dislike?

Mostly Unrelated Tangent: That's my biggest problem with SJWs. When faced with situations where they could give some links, at least, to educate someone (or even advise them to google [Offender's name] plus [keyword(s)] if they really want to know why a person/thing gets so much hate, they just scream "It's not my job to educate you" and sling shit.

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Why do I bother anymore?

(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Ok. You know what? I'm sick of this shit. I really really am. Ok. Each and every fandom has their shitty parts. You would be hard pressed to find a fandom in existence that hasn't had some big wankfest, or had some of its members do or say something horrible, in the name of their fandom or not. Yes, some bronies may not be nice people, or have horrible opinions or say something horrible or draw/write something that will haunt the depths of my nightmares. Guess what? So do other fandoms. Not all bronies/ Fim fans/whatever the distinction between the two is this time are like that. Every fandom has their whackjobs. It's part of the internet. Get the fuck over it, stop tarring all fans with the same brush, stop taking a few loudmouths as an example of the whole fandom and for the love of all things sane and rational STOP using bronies as you're personal scapegoat/punching bag. Seriously. Enough.
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To head off some of the inevetable questions/accusations:
Female,college age, fan of MLP:FiM, despite spending considerable time in the fandom, this is the first time I've heard of the incident in the secret.

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an appeal to all MLP fans

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[personal profile] al28894 2012-12-22 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
Yikes... and to think I was once a fan of the show. Well, apart from their fan-music.
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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 04:51 am (UTC)(link)
Sad story, bro.

I'm just going to be over here, enjoying the good parts of fandom, knowing that I don't have any way to stop other people from having dumb-ass opinions and doing stupid things if I don't hang out in the same parts of the internet they do.

I don't even watch the actual show. I just love the fan content.

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(Anonymous) 2012-12-22 05:17 am (UTC)(link)
Good you came to your senses


but what were you thinking when everyone raged about bronies and their horrible attitudes? if the politely enjoyed the show, no-one would care. It's because they're demanding, rape apologetic, victim blamming dickheads who get angry when the show caters to it's target audience (Not Adult Fans)

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[personal profile] eaten_by_bears 2012-12-22 08:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's a huge fandom. Some bronies will be douchebags, because some people are douchebags, and you don't filter that out just because they all like the same show.

I'm not responsible for everything a brony does just like I'm not responsible for everything a Trekkie does. That's an absurd standard to apply, and it's not one you see applied to fandoms that don't make people uncomfortable in the gender place.

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Brony is an optional term for yourself.

Brony is an optional term.

BRONY IS AN OPTIONAL TERM.

You can just call yourself a fan of the show. YES it kind of sucks to 'lose' the word, but you still have a choice in this matter. Be lumped in with scum like this- or not. Brony subculture while not 100% like this helped to perpetuate and encourage this sort of behaviour. There are good bronies- obviously, because the fandom is big with a large range of people- but if upon finding out about this they can't accept it they can lose the name for themselves fairly easily.

MALE FANS, not just female can call themselves fans too. It's not like you are automatically a brony if you identify as a man as well and like the show.

The fact is, while I won't automatically condemn a brony, I will be at least wary of someone who claims that name until I can further establish they are not a douche. It's a self defence mechanism based on past behaviour. Because at best they are ignorant as to what the name means now. Which is basically perhaps the worst kind of fan imaginable.

I do feel sorry for those good bronies when they find out sometimes but I have to feel for those negatively affected by brony sub-culture first. They matter more and are the real victims in this.

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Can someone tell me what exactly happened?

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[personal profile] otakugal15 2012-12-22 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
Oh we've been hating them for more than that for a while now, but that was the fucking cherry on the top of a shitstain cake.