[ SECRET POST #2356 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #2356 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 06 pages, 134 secrets from Secret Submission Post #336.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 1 - repeat ].
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Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

Comments

[fscom]

09. http://i.imgur.com/eA2UZrM.png

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with you 90% of the time.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel you. I get enough of social issues in real life and when I'm in fandom, I just want to escape from that all. As soon as other fans start talking about social issues, representation, underlying misogyny and whatnot, I'm out of there. I don't care if the show I'm watching is "problematic", I just watch it to tune out and enjoy myself.

If it turns out that the show reminds me too much of real life problems, I stop watching. End of story.

Well said

[insanenoodlyguy]

You are a good person.

[queerwolf]

Me too for the most part. If it's so bad it ruins my enjoyment of something, that's different. But mostly I want an escape from real life and its issues.

[sootyowl]

Now I want some salad. Preferably Greek salad. Yum.

[(Anonymous)]

I understand you OP. Too bad that you get so much hate if you post something like this on tumblr.

[(Anonymous)]

Nothing wrong with that. The only problem is when people who don't like to talk about those things try to silence those who do. There isn't anything wrong with not wanting to talk about social issues in fandom, but there also isn't anything wrong with wanting to.

[deadtree]

I can't deny that I'm pretty much the same. If it's blatant, then yeah, that's one thing-- but when people want to pick apart every little part of a book or show to find all the "problematic" parts I mentally check out and go look for smutfic instead.

[(Anonymous)]

I care. I just don't want to talk about it all. the fucking. time. I can't remember the last time I learned something new, anyway. That's my problem. I've heard it all before. Listening to the same tired old spiel every time something new comes out, or someone new enters an old fandom of mine, does no good. Not for me, anyway.

It's like when someone I follow on tumblr keeps reblogging screencaps of the same scene over and over and over and OVER again. If that's how they enjoy their fannish experience, that's fine. It's not up to me to tell them otherwise. But I don't work that way. I get my fill of something, take the good things and the lessons learned, and then I move on.

Overexposure ruins everything. A problem usually fixed by withdrawing from a particular fandom or social circle and investing in something else, but with SJ stuff? It's fucking everywhere. It doesn't matter where you go, it's the same in every fandom, on every level. And after so many year of it, all it does now is get on my nerves.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm not so keen on porn, but if porn is the price that we have to pay to have a fandom without SJWs in it, then I'll buy the lube.

Srsly, fandom ranting about social issues? Get a life, either enjoy the show or fuck off and leave the people who are enjoying it alone.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm with you 100%.

[maverickz3r0]

Yeah, pretty much. It all turns into arguing in circles of the same things you've heard many times before, anyway.

[glo_unit]

Not so much for the OP but some of the posters. So I can't every enjoy something, but hope it improves things like how it represents certain groups? I can't ever criticize anything if I also enjoy it?

[gobbledigook]

This is completely fine, so long as you realize the so called SJW also get to give you a picture of a happy salad-eating person if you ever express anger at the fact that they're ruining your fun or whatever.

Anyone else...

[(Anonymous)]

finds that all the SJWs sort of desensitized you to social justice issues? I used to be pretty into it (like, a lot), but now whenever I see the words "sexist", "misogynistic", "racist", etc., in fandom, I just scroll past without bothering. Everything is sexist/misogynistic/racist in fandom these days, and I just can't take the constant nit-picking and whining and bitching and fighting...ugh, that's not why I come to fandom, and that's not what fandom is about for me. I still care about social issues, don't get me wrong, but fandom is my escape from RL bullshit. It sucks that I can't get away from it anywhere, apparently. It also sucks that I have to witness SJWs picking apart all my fandoms and blowing even the tiniest things completely out of proportion.

They need to just make a separate community for all these social issues (i.e. Sherlock_sjw, social_issues_spn, fandom_sexism, sj_dw, etc) and leave all those rants/arguments over there.

[kallanda_lee]

I agree mostly.

It's not that I don't care about social issues. It's just that I do not necessarily want it with my entertainment. Also SJW's in fandom have sort of put me off it entirely. I generally save more socially oriented thing for my non-fiction stuff.

[(Anonymous)]

Agreed. I want my escapism, damn it!

[applemagpie]

There's nothing wrong with that. I think most people are in fandom for the pleasure and enjoyment.
But I do feel like some people seem to get the idea that those of us who do criticize problematic aspects of a show just do it because we like being critical un-fun nitpickers who like ruining the fun for others. When I call out a show for being racist/sexist or whatever, I do it because I'm frustrated with the constant shitty treatment and basic non-representation that female/non-white/etc. characters get. Not because I just like bashing something and being negative. I mean, it is possible to love something while being able to be critical of it. (My main fandom is comics. I think that speaks for itself)

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, me too, OP. I just want to be entertained and to enjoy my fic and fanart--it's why I don't engage w/fandom much anymore. I just wanna have fun.

I do wish more shows had diversity in the ethnic and race sense and more diversity in the types of female characters it shows, but I'm not interested in analyzing my shows for evidence of misogyny, sexism, racism, etc.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, if the social issues crowd had their way all tv would be like this:
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/5748821/tramadol_nights_episode_1_bbc_untitled_street/

Although it is problematic because they are not in gender neutral paper masks.

[(Anonymous)]

I enjoy overanalyzing stuff in fandom, but I don't care. This image just cracks me the fuck up.

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't had much problem shutting down my brain and just enjoying the porn when I want to. In fact, as passionately as I care about social issues most of the time, it deeply bothers me when people drag their issues onto places that explicitly exist for mindless porn and enjoyment, like kink memes. Fandom needs to have refuges at both end of the spectrum, for complex discussion and for shameless satisfaction, and overall tolerance of each other, so we can all enjoy the party.

But then, this is human nature we're talking about. If reasonable tolerance of differing views were easy for us, the world would be a very different place.

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[(Anonymous)]

[The picture has a woman eating a salad in the background. This is supposed to mean something on the internet, like, "I don't care", or something? I think.]


I don't care about most social issues in media.

I just want to be entertained and talk about porn.

[angrymermaids]

I agree, and I've largely learned to get over it and find a circle of friends that isn't crazy. I care about many social issues, I'm just tired of it getting in the way of fic and art and gifs and wtf-ever I feel like looking at in fandom. "Problematic" and "privilege" are two words that I hate and almost never use, because they're just alienating and snobbish.

Also, people blow things way out of proportion. For God's sake, you'd think Legend of Korra was no better than Birth of a Nation or some shit, the way these people talk about it.