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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2022-11-20 03:33 pm

[ SECRET POST #5798 ]


⌈ Secret Post #5798 ⌋

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[Jeeves and Wooster]


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(Anonymous) 2022-11-21 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
Might want to watch the transphobia unfolding here:

https://fandomsecrets.dreamwidth.org/2713166.html?thread=1095990862#cmt1095990862

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-20 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
I want to agree, but I can't. I do agree that Blackbeard doesn't have to have Taika's specific background (Maori/Jewish), but the writers have been pretty purposeful in what racism they included. The French captain calls Blackbeard a donkey, and later Blackbeard turns the "you all look alike" line around on a white guy.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-20 09:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Wasn't there an episode with his mom that very heavily implied (to me as a white chick) that a lot of their troubles in life stemmed from them not being white?

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I mean, sure, but why would you feel like making him white? To fix the oh so lack of white people on tv? What would be the goal or purpose in doing that when the character possibly being brown is doing so much for so many viewers?

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I disagree, not only because of what other comments have already mentioned about the show implying it, but also because Stede is distinctly white in a way that impacts the show's central romance.

Stede feels very deliberately written as a well-intentioned rich white guy who is often blind to his own privilege, and that ultimately causes harm to Ed in the last couple episodes when Stede runs back to his old life. He has the privilege of both upward and downward mobility. He can choose to LARP as a pirate despite others being forced into it, and he can assimilate back into “proper” (i.e. colonialist) culture once he gets in too much trouble for trying to rebel against or escape the system that oppressed him for decades as a closeted man forced into an loveless marriage. Ed probably will never be able to have the freedom of mobility Stede does, even if no one knows he’s Blackbeard (as emphasized by the fancy party episode where the other attendees treated him like a novelty). As an indigenous man with power and wealth who openly rules the seas, he's a threat to the systems that white people privilege from, so he’s forever stuck as an enemy (or monster) that must be vanquished because he’s a threat to “decent society” (i.e. the European colonizers who pillaged the Americas for their own benefit, basically doing a lot of the same shit pirates did except on a much wider scale, and except it was seen as “good” and legal because those atrocities were committed under the name of a monarch). Season 1 essentially ends with him resigning himself to this fate, now that his one hope that he could be seen and valued as something more than the stereotypes forced upon him by others has abandoned him.

Ultimately, OFMD is very good at examining systemic oppression for a 10-episode-long comedy, both in terms of queerness and race, but I think a lot of the race part goes over a lot of white viewers’ heads because they tend to see racism as something that “bad individuals” do rather than something fundamental to British colonialist society that impacts everyone, intentionally or not. Meanwhile, a lot of those white viewers identify as queer, so they’ll much more easily pick up on the systemic homophobia that keeps the two leads from fully embracing themselves and their relationship. Still, I don’t think struggling to identify subtle hints that point towards the existence of systemic racism makes someone intentionally racist, as most mainstream media (and a lot of educational material, for that matter) portray racism as an individualistic viewpoint that “bad” white characters hold, while “good” white characters are accepting and kind and therefore not racist regardless of any privileges they may have for being born as white. In many other shows, Stede would be that “good” character, but he isn’t, and that’s great. Despite his efforts to be an ally, despite his sexuality, despite his behavior that ostracizes him from his peers, and despite his attempt to run away from an oppressive life he never chose for himself, he still is vulnerable to the expectations and benefits that arise from the inherent privileges that he was born into as a white landowner in a colonized 18th-century settlement. Racism can’t be solved by a select group of white people being nice. Instead, racism is so baked into power structures and history that laws and systems have to fundamentally change to make a proper impact. Same goes for homophobia, for that matter.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-21 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
He's fictional. Anyone can headcanon him however they want.

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My interaction with OFMD is exclusively through fanworks, recced by a friend who is in love with this actor's particular interpretation of Blackbeard (and let's be real - also what he looks like).

That said, I think a LOT of media is written is such a way that not much would be different if you changed the ethnicity of the actor. And with a few movies, I strongly suspect they've put authoritarian, repugnant points of view in the mouths of their token minority representation, specifically to make it hard for people to object to what they're saying without being suspected of racism.

So, I definitely go "how would this sound to me if the character saying it was white?" just like feminism taught me to go "would this be a reasonable expectation if the character in question were a man instead of a woman?"

I don't know the canon well enough to know if you'd be missing out on interesting characterization by headcanoning him as white, or opening narrative possibilities that he doesn't currently have, but I think most of the assertions that you "have to" do things a certain way in fandom or else it means you're a bad person are very flimsy arguments anyway.

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Isn't he based on a real person - the real Blackbeard, who was in fact white? If so then this whole thread seems absolutely ridiculous.

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(Anonymous) 2022-11-21 05:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I would cry out for a show that didn't gut history to use as stories with modern messages. Gay people have always existed. People of all races have always existed. Give us THEIR stories. Not this faux history bollocks.

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lol Grudge much?
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Whedon is a sexist asshole. But some of the works he created were good. I love Buffy and will probably always love Buffy. Angel is pretty good. And I enjoy Firefly. I'm not going to spend any money on any of his media because I don't want to give him money. But Buffy is a great show in spite of its terrible creator.

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May we have links.... I love me a rubber ducky & I love me some Jeeves/Wooster as well ... <3

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The anon whose life is enriched by Yu Yu Hakusho every time is one of my favorite anons

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I want to be reincarnated in The Culture.

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Sandoval hates all women who aren’t Ariana, and Ariana seems to only like herself, I thought this was a common observation lol

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Secret reminded me I really need to get around to watching Arcane.

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