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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2011-05-13 08:02 pm

[ SECRET POST #1592 ]

⌈ Secret Post #1592 ⌋


Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.


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[BSG]


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[Yu-Gi-Oh 5Ds]


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[Supernatural]


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[Glee]


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09. [repeat]


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[Once Upon A Time In Mexico]


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[Breakout Kings]


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[Supernatural]


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[Ano Hi Mita Hana no Namae o Bokutachi wa Mada Shiranai]


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[Invasion America]


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[Zork Nemesis]


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[Waiting for Godot and Good Omens]


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[Withnail & I]


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[Gorillaz]


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[The Young Riders]


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[Pride & Prejudice]


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[Shantae: Risky's Revenge]


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[bbc sherlock (lestrade)]








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24. [SPOILERS for Supernatural]



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25. [SPOILERS for Ghost Trick]



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26. [SPOILERS for Harry Potter and the Forbidden Journey]



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27. [SPOILERS for Death Note]



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28. [SPOILERS for the Tudors]



29. [SPOILERS for Transformers: Dark of the Moon]



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30. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]



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31. [SPOILERS for Portal 2]










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32. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, abuse]



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33. [TRIGGER WARNING for abuse/sexual assault]

[Glee]


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34. [SPOILERS for Doctor Who]
[TRIGGER WARNING for parent death?]



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36. [TRIGGER WARNING for rape, racism, abuse, and pedophilia]



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37. [TRIGGER WARNING for self-harm]



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38. [TRIGGER WARNING for sexual abuse]

[Kuroshitsuji II]




Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 000 secrets from Secret Submission Post #227.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeats ]
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments and concerns should go here.

[identity profile] fscom.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 12:23 am (UTC)(link)
I will never understand why using a word in passing necessitates a trigger warning. This secret didn't even really discuss those things.

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+1

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All the +1s I have go to you.

[identity profile] micromyni.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
They're fantasies, and that's all they are. I'm not proud of some of my kinks, they'd be both impossible and cruel in real life, and I know that. I'd never subject someone to my kinks; that's what fiction is for.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 12:27 am (UTC)(link)
Um, you do know a lot of people who are into those things are victims of rape/molestation/abuse/whatever themselves, right?
ext_81845: mashmyre cello facepalming, from the anime zz gundam (facepalm)

[identity profile] childings.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
If you're a total judgmental asshole to someone and you make your dislike of a kink personal that person has the right to be an asshole right back, regardless of your own personal reasons for being offended by that particular kink

Can't you just say, "that disgusts me" without getting personal and judgy about it?

This.

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[identity profile] hikari87.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
IA with all of this. But you are probably going to get screamed at by these same people who think their right to publicly display their favorite sex fantasies trumps other peoples' right not to be horribly upset (because heaven knows that refraining from publicizing one's turnons, out of respect for others' feelings, is EXACTLY equivalent to going through all of whatever caused those other people to have bad associations with said turnon.)

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Get off yourself.

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[identity profile] humblebot.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
I'll mock and dismiss you all I want, when you have that holier-than-thou passive aggressive attitude. You sound like an asshole yourself, we should party together.

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Put on your wank hats, it's going to get messy in here.

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[identity profile] ahkna.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 12:38 am (UTC)(link)
Yawn.

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
There's a big difference between saying, "Ew, not my thing" and leaving the post/community/whatever, and saying, "You are an asshole, pure and simple." People aren't mad because you have "reservations"; people are mad because it sounds like you're being a jerk about it.

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[identity profile] alliterations.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 12:45 am (UTC)(link)
It depends on the situation you're talking about, OP. If someone makes a fuss over my properly and explicitly labeled fic about X kink, because they have a trauma about it, that doesn't make sense to me and I will say "you didn't have to read the fic, YKINMK," because it was, as I said, properly labeled.
If I mention, in say, a meme or something else, that I have X kink, and the same sort of person raises a fuss, I will again say "well, I'm sorry for your trauma, but YKINMK."

However, if someone were to start going on about how LOOK AT MY X KINK. ISN'T IT GREAT? ISN'T X SO AWESOME?! and someone comes up and says "hey, X triggers me in some way, could you stop talking about it or warn for it?" and then the first person goes "YKINMK, stop shaming me" that's an asshole move.

The thing that gets people's dander up about kink shaming is...well, the shaming part. I shouldn't feel bad over what turns me on, and if I label fics of it properly, I don't see the problem.

[identity profile] iapetusneume.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
The answer is that we can't have nice things. There are plenty of people willing to play by the rules of common decency and sense in regards to their fellow human, but there will always be people on both sides who will cause a stink, and they speak badly for everyone.

I'd say agree to disagree, but with touchy issues like this it's easier said than done.

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*sits by with popcorn and potato chips to wait for sfd_a, ontd_f and goons to come marching in*

(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 12:52 am (UTC)(link)
How do you feel about iguanas?

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 12:57 am (UTC)(link)
HOMG! Another opinion!

Wow look at all these user's defending rape and pedophilia, how mentally retarded do you troll bullies get? Anon because I don't want my inbox spammed with "FUCKING BABIES IS OKAY >:("

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 01:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's not right to mock people's kinks, and it's not right to mock people who don't like those kinks, especially if there's a personal tragedy involved.

I hate this stupid abbreviation, but it is correct. YKINMKATO. Your Kink Is Not My Kink And That's Okay. But also, My Kink Is Not Your Kink And That's Okay. Which some people don't seem to get. Being disgusted by a kink is not the same thing as being disgusted by the whole person who has that kink.

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[identity profile] pink-bambi13.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
I think this makes a valid point but... at the same time, most fics have summaries, disclaimers, warnings and a link to arrive at the fic. It isn't as if people have to click on the link, especially if the warning states exactly what is going to happen to the characters. I understand that it's a morality issue but at the same time, people have to take responsibility for their own wanderings. Not to be harsh but, if you don't like it, why do people ignore the warnings and continue to read the fic? Confusing.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
except that the vast majority of the time when people say things like that, it's in response to people being assholish, self-righteous and judgmental, like "how DARE you like this thing that I don't!"

it's rude not to leave trigger warnings or go around talking about things that can obviously squick people in inappropriate places, but I rarely see that and much more often see people just complaining about how awful the people who like X are.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
I'm so surprised you are getting so much negative feedback here, because I agree with this secret 120%. As long as you're not saying "YOU are horrible for liking this kink", you have every right to say "I find this kink absolutely disgusting". It's not like you're judging PEOPLE (except insofar as everyone can be judged by the stuff they like, but I mean, that's kind of difficult to avoid whenever you express any opinion) and I think people are too happy to play the victim and be like 'don't judge me you asshole' when you're just... expressing a perfectly non-irrational opinion? Idk.

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 01:44 am (UTC)(link)
How long do you think this thread will go until a freeze?

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(Anonymous) 2011-05-14 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Except what usually happens is the exact opposite.

but nice try

[identity profile] ceruleansan.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
THIS.

I'm still waiting for the backlash from the invalidated people.

[identity profile] mondaisenshi.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 03:08 am (UTC)(link)
It bothers me when people just assume that someone with a trigger kink has any less experience with the focus of their kink than the person judging them.

Yeah, okay, so MOST people haven't been through MOST of the horrible things they've pondered. And I'm not saying it's common, but it's not unheard of for people who have been raped to have a rape kink. I somehow doubt that none of the people with Nazi uniform fetishes are Jewish. Who's to say someone who was molested as a child can't find pedophilia stories arousing?

I'd never condone the actual acts themselves, and I'm not saying that you can't be disturbed or disgusted by other peoples' turn-ons, and I may be in the minority in that I have no issue with people making flash assumptions about other people, I'm simply saying that I don't think it's fair to judge people based on assumptions.

[identity profile] beandelphiki.livejournal.com 2011-05-14 03:49 am (UTC)(link)
Excuse me, but



Srsly. When the fuck was the last time you saw someone say, "Oh, I had someone Jewish get upset at me 'cuz my last post to the kinkmeme had Nazi fetishism in it. HAHAHAHA, WHAT A STUPID HO! IS THE OVEN TOO HOT FOR YOU, BITCH?"

No, I really want to know.

If you can't answer the call of, "LINK PLZ," then fuck you for this trolling wankbait. Because I have never seen anyone "mock" anyone who got upset at their controversial kink. Mostly I have only seen people get frustrated when they are called on the carpet for said kink OVER and OVER and OVER, and, "I can't change my kink, so why don't you just look the other way?" is taken as "dismissal."

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