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[personal profile] fscom 2015-04-21 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I cannot stand all the "lol this ship is trash" or "I'm so trash for shipping this" posts. Guess what, assholes, I ship this too, and I didn't sign up to play your stupid self hate game. Calling someone human garbage for having harmless fun is fucking horrible.

B!S: All anime is not "trash", grow up. I don't care that you watch it anyway, have some respect for yourself and your interests.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Nah, listen, I'm sorry, but I can't agree. No one is calling you trash. It's rhetoric. This is how language and vernacular works. Just... I hate saying this, but get over it.

("all anime is trash" is a totally different thing)

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
i've been trying to write this exact post for the last two months, albeit in less frustrated-aggressive terms. i know a lot of people mean it as a joke but it bugs me so much.

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[personal profile] kaijinscendre 2015-04-21 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
It annoys the fuck out of me, but they are not really using it seriously as a negative.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
i thought those posts were just self-depreciating. in jest, you know. don't take it so seriously.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
I just...I hate it when people won't OWN what they like.

I unapologetically enjoy the things I do. That doesn't mean I don't understand why someone would dislike or even hate them. That doesn't mean I think it's completely healthy or perfect. Nope. It just means I enjoy the dynamic. Or the story. Or the relationship. I think it's well written. Or maybe just hot.

But I don't see the point in pretending otherwise.

I also hate it when people give lip service to things they're clearly not interested in just to seem "fair" or to "support" the latest social justice character or pairing.

There's no reason to shit on it, but don't pretend to care if you don't. It's just frustrating.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 10:59 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't take it personally. They aren't insulting you, or even the thing you like (and even if they were insulting the thing you like, it's still best not to take it personally.)

Some of us have self deprecating senses of humor, and it's a lot nicer to make fun of yourself then to make fun of other people.

Just seriously, try to learn to ignore it.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Don't you ever have something that is kind of ridiculous and stupid but you love it anyway... but at the same time you can't deny that it's ridiculous and stupid?

Or, okay, you don't think it's ridiculous but can you maybe try and imagine that someone else might? And that they don't mean any hard by it? (They certainly aren't looking to attack you personally.)

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Dude, it's a joke.
Please take a xanax and clam down.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 11:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Good lord, chill out, it's a joke. No one actually thinks they're trash or what they ship is trash, and I really doubt anyone's making you get in on the joke if you don't want to. You are taking this way too personally.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
lol someones feeing self-centered today.
Like, do you do not understand how self-deprecating jokes work?
Please get over yourself.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree with everyone else, though it's possible OP's friends are overdoing it. At that point I could see it getting annoying, honestly.
nightscale: Starbolt (WoW: Deathwing)

[personal profile] nightscale 2015-04-21 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
This is definitely a slang term I don't get(I'm getting old, lol), I wont knock people using it, carry on if it's amusing to you, but it's not a word I'd use. It doesn't bother me so much though, I just find it a little confusing.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-21 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Thank you OP. I know exactly how you feel. This is supposed to be a place were all fandoms are accepted but that is total bullshit. I can't post about my OTP here because there are some very nasty people who don't like it. They turn into bullies with their nasty comments and name calling. I don't post about them here and enjoy my very much active fandom while some of theirs die. So fuck the haters and enjoy what you like.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I'm yumikuri trash. Because i love them so much and am so obsessed with them I can't even fuction.

Not because I feel bad about liking them.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 12:02 am (UTC)(link)
I hate it because I don't understand when it became seen as unacceptable to simply like what you like without needing to add qualifiers like that.

Go ahead and love your awful B movie or your terribly-written TV show! There's nothing wrong with loving something that you know is objectively bad or goofy and there certainly shouldn't be any shame in it. You don't need to justify yourself to anyone else every time you talk about it.

Go ahead and enjoy whatever it is you like and more power to you for liking it.

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[personal profile] elaminator 2015-04-22 12:05 am (UTC)(link)
I get that the people who use "shipper trash" aren't serious, but I don't like it either. Maybe I can't take a joke or maybe I'm just tired of hearing it. *shrugs*

However it doesn't make me furious, I just don't get it.

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[personal profile] diet_poison 2015-04-22 12:06 am (UTC)(link)
isn't "trash" the new "cool" on Tumblr or something?

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 12:13 am (UTC)(link)
Trash is not a negative. I play in trash all the time dude. You don't know how fun trash is until you've dug through it all.
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[personal profile] al28894 2015-04-22 12:15 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's kinda of a positive reinforcement, at least to those who are new to shipping?

In detail, I think this whole thing first started out as a way for fandom newbies to gush about unconventional ships without being judged in Tumblr (where harassing people for simply shipping happens disturbingly often) and it just kinda snowballed from then on. The fair-weather crowd then picked it up and abused the notion to death.

For me, I just ship and ship away!
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(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
Because one person's trash is another person's treasure and it's a way of acknowledging that you like something while telling others to fuck off because they think you ~trashy~ for it.

So many people used to whine about people only caring about shipping (shipper trash), liking really awful characters (X character is trash!), etc. It lessens the sting.

(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 12:35 am (UTC)(link)
Did I write this secret in my sleep?

The Tumblr tag for my latest OTP is rampant with this phenomenon, and at first, I found it really offputting and irritating, so I absolutely agree with your point.

That said, I have at least one IRL friend who's an anime fan and uses the "I'm trash" joke a lot, and given that my latest OTP does involve a 30 year age gap between the actors alone (as well as several other pairings that are a bit fucked/demented/inappropriate), give or take, I've kind of fallen in to saying I'm trash as well, even though it irked me so much at first.

But I feel you, OP. I feel you so hard. +10000

(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
THIS. So much. So much agree. It's just so irritating. "Lol I'm trash this is trash we're all trash together omg" PLEASE GROW UP. It's the conversational equivalent of a slightly drunk red carpet interviewer who laughs at everything celebrities say. No thoughts will happen here, best to move on.

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(Anonymous) 2015-04-22 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
I feel you, actually. I know it's a joke, but a lot of times it's used completely seriously. I'm sick of the idea that you can't unironically like anything anymore. I mean, when you have people sending others anon hate or rude comments because they reblogged some ~problematic~ character/ship and they think they're apologist because the blogger didn't say anything critical, then I'm thinking it's not really as humorous as people say.

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