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F!S Anon Meme (the Tenth?)


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Is "Rape is love" about rape or not?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 06:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm confused about this trope.

Re: Is "Rape is love" about rape or not?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 07:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I have no idea, but I'd imagine it's less love and more about people with rape fantasies. Or Stockholm Syndrome.

Either way, definitely does not appeal to me.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 07:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, kinda. The point is that person A loves person B so much that they rape person B, after which person B (through the magical power of rape) realizes that they, too, love person A. Happy end.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 07:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Rape is love isn't about real rape. It's a romanticized idea that the rapist loves the victim so much that he/she can't "love"/sex any other person, so they give into temptation. Or something stupid like that. In reality, if someone loved you, they wouldn't be raping you. It's fine in fantasy, but horrifying if people believe it's something that could happen in reality.

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Re: Is "Rape is love" about rape or not?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm mostly unsure whether something in one of my favorite fics IS this trope - it definitely involves rape and it definitely involves love, but I'm not sure if it fits into the description.

Character A and character B have been obsessed with each other for a couple of years, this is NOT presented as a good and healthy thing and the fic does portray them as both broken and fucked-up people. Character A is a masochist who has been fantasizing about character B hurting him and considers character B to pretty much own him, character B is a sadist who has been fantasizing about hurting character A, and has a ton of control issues and needs things to be Just So. (Canonically, character B IS extremely fucked up, mentally.)

Neither character knows this about the other - character B tends to keep pushing character A away, which is because a part of him is horrified by his own thoughts and he doesn't actually want to hurt character A, and which character A interprets as being because character B knows about character A's feelings and is disgusted by them. Both are essentially head over heels in love with each other.

Eventually, after character A kisses character B on impulse and because he thinks it's the last time he'll ever see him, they do realize, oh shit, we've been lusting over each other for years, let's do something about this. Cue sweet, consensual, and hot sexual activity, mostly oral sex, before falling asleep together.

Until character B wakes up after horrific nightmares, realizes that if he doesn't do something, he could lose character A, so he ties character A to the bed and rapes him (and it is rape, complete with character A begging him to stop at first). About halfway through, the tone changes and character A's begging for character B to stop starts turning into character A begging character B to keep going. The aftermath is... almost sweet, but neither really acknowledge that it was rape. This entire scene is from character B's perspective.

Next chapter is from character A's perspective, where he thinks back to the night before and is sort of... both horrified and not-horrified over what happens. He acknowledges that it was terrifying to begin with but also felt good in a masochistic kind of way, and still feels incredibly tender towards character B, both despite and because of what he did, character B is ashamed of his actions and keeps trying to force character A to leave so he won't hurt him, character A just wants to help character B and still wants to be with him, including wanting to be fucked (and hurt) by character B.

That story technically isn't finished, but there are side stories set afterwards where they are in a fairly happy (and kinky) relationship, they do genuinely love each other, and character B is STILL fucked up and has massive control issues and character A basically martyrs himself for it and is still trying to save character B (although he does make a point of telling character B that if he ever hits him in anger outside of the bedroom, he WILL leave).

Basically, tl;dr, character B rapes character A but character A ends up enjoying it and, later, acknowledges that it was terrifying and wrong of character B to do it but is okay with it (and more okay with it than character B) and still wants to pursue a sexual and romantic relationship with him. Story portrays both of them as being really fucked up, obsessive, and broken, and does NOT at all say that it's a healthy relationship, even if it does end up as a loving one.

Would you say this fits the category of 'rape is love'?

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Fic Search-Kinks especially welcome

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Fluffy doms or praise kink

[personal profile] blunderbuss 2014-07-13 08:11 pm (UTC)(link)
I like the occasional light BSDM but it's always black leather and whips. I'd like to see a fic where the dominant partner is the gentlest, sweetest, most loving dom ever. Like the type to tie you up with silk and kiss you everywhere until you're begging for it but only if you ask nicely.

Or, a praise kink one where someone lavishes another with kind and sincere praise/compliments and worships their body and the other just melts in reponse.

Any pairing, any fandom, though I would prefer m/m.

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Rants about fandom stuff that you feel is probably too old to warrant making a secret about

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 08:16 pm (UTC)(link)
It annoys me tremendously when people say they're Narnia fans and then go "but it's too Christian" or "it would be so much better without the religious stuff" or "I don't see why the animals needed human rulers, they should have overthrown them and started a republic." If you're offended or annoyed by overt Christian themes in a story, it might not be the best choice to read the works of a Christian theologian. Acting surprised or upset or miffed that a man who explicitly went on record as saying that the Narnia books were meant as an AU of Christianity, elected to actually write them as an AU of Christianity, is completely absurd - go and read non-religious authors instead, then. But if your understanding of those Christian themes is so nonexistent that you don't get why human kings and queens were put in charge of a land of animals in a Christianity AU, you probably won't see what I'm getting at here anyway.
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Re: Rants about fandom stuff that you feel is probably too old to warrant making a secret about

[personal profile] blunderbuss 2014-07-13 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I really really dislike the Roy/Riza pairing in the Fullmetal Alchemist manga. Not because I ship Roy/Ed or any dumb shit like that, but because;

a) I hate it when a male/female pair MUST be in love in order to protect each other and can't just stay close friends
b) Their relationship is unhealthy on quite a few levels and no one seems to notice
c) Riza's whole backstory and current arc revolves around Roy and I want her to have a life OUTSIDE of him

But the worst part was the fans who squeed at the Roy/Riza in every chapter even back when it was ambiguous and started declaring it canon, and laughed at anyone who thought it wasn't an obvious done deal since chapter 5. Especially when they took Riza's threat of murder/suicide as a romantic moment that 'confirmed' the pairing.

Agreed

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Are you haunted by plotbunnies?

[personal profile] blunderbuss 2014-07-13 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Y'know you got 'em. Those little niggling ideas for a story/picture/fanfic that you can't/won't write but they just won't go away. Tell us! And if people want to know more about someone's plotbunny, just ask!

Myself, I keep having ideas of writing what Jason Todd's tenure as Robin would have been like during the timeskip in Young Justice. I feel like I could do his character some justice but also see how he'd interact with other characters like Artemis and M'gann and such. And also how I'd write his death - in a way that could actually be shown in a cartoon - and his resurrection.

I like Jason a lot, okay?

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 08:54 pm (UTC)(link)
Ever since the announcment of a solo Wonder Woman movie came out I'm filled with visions of what I want it to look like.

I'm 100% it won't look like that and I'm also sure it would be a bad, bad movie. But I'm still hoping it won't.

That is, if it ever gets made.

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New Doctor Who Trailer

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 08:21 pm (UTC)(link)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TivqZTq5u6Y

Just came out. Posting thoughts next comment to be considerate, even though they're not really spoilery.
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Yes, please. Now, please.

No coherent thoughts, really. So excited.

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THIS! +INFINITY PLUS ONE, FOREVER!

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How many threads do you have open?

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I currently have 10 different tabs open. this is the one hard thing about an anon meme. Can't track replies to my comments.

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two and I have fs open in another tab

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Sudden craving thread

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I really want BBQ chips. Holy carp.

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Now I do too.

Also pizza. It's been so long...

Ooo, or spaghetti. Or tacos. I'm just hungry.

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World Cup final

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 08:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm here right now because i can't stand watching the fucking match anymore. I'm so sure they're gonna blow it arrgghhh!!!!:x

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Every single time I looked away from the TV during the semi-finals, Germany scored a goal.

Clearly me watching them is unlucky, so I am sparing both of us and just not watching it right now.

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The secrets thread for lurkers,

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 08:41 pm (UTC)(link)
... who for some reason can't make secrets the traditional way but still want to let something out.
Because this anon only has access to the internet through school computers and therefore can't make picture secrets.

Re: The secrets thread for lurkers,

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 08:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok, so op's secret is that the reason I don't like trans headcanons is because my boyfriend just came out as trans and I am dealing with it badly.

Also, I like pissing off sjw's on the internet because those people are my real life friends and I can't say anything I want to say to them for fear of being socially exiled.

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Help me get over tumblr-depression?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 08:42 pm (UTC)(link)
I came to tumblr for the fandoms but the SJ side sucked me in. It's fascinating but also incredibly depressive. Some of the logical fallacies and lies there are just so… I can't believe there are people who think stuff like that is okay.

I want to look away but I can't. It's like watching a car accident. What do I do?

Please tell me the number of reblogs means nothing and that most people aren't this crazy.

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website blocker or delete your tumblr

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Tiger & Bunny manga after volume 5?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 09:12 pm (UTC)(link)
I just started reading these books, and bought them all because they're great.

Only I came to the last one, and it's not the last one? I was wondering how they were going to tie up all the loose ends in just 5 books, and they didn't.

Anyone know how many more Tiger & Bunny manga books there are going to be? I can't find the info anywhere, including Viz (the publisher's) website. When are they out?

I did try to google this but no luck.

Re: Tiger & Bunny manga after volume 5?

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My guess is that volume 6 isn't out yet in Japan. It can't be translated until the original volume is released, right? This happens all the time when the translation has caught up with any Japanese back volumes. Enough chapters have to be finished one week/month/season at a time for them to be compiled into a volume, then the volume has to be translated and all the new artwork done, the book printed/compiled into the final GN, and shipped out to publishers.

Check the printing date in vol 5. If it's less than 3 months ago, you have a couple months more to wait, minimum. If it's been 6 months, the new volume should be out soon. If it's been a year or more, then something's going on and you should email the English publisher and ask what's up.

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No. 6

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 09:23 pm (UTC)(link)
Is the anime any good? I'm looking for something with cute boys in love and a good story. If it's not, do you recommend anything else along these lines? Please and thank you in advance.

Re: No. 6

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 09:25 pm (UTC)(link)
The ending falls makes it fall apart, but I had some fun watching it. I'm not too familiar with any other shows that are similar.

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dashcon

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everyone has an opinion, what's yours? Scam, or just misguided naive kids?

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 09:36 pm (UTC)(link)
It's the Sparkledammerung and Moonlight Bus Ads all over again and I'm loving every second of it.

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Noir Films Recs

(Anonymous) 2014-07-13 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been watching a few noir films lately and I've gotten really interested in them and would love any recs you guys can give! Any time period is fine, and if there is purism about noir, just know that I do not know or care about any purist arguments.

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I don't know if these count, but I liked L.A. Confidential, The Grifters, and The Usual Suspects (I think they would probably be labeled Neo-Noir).

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-14 12:37 am (UTC)(link)
I feel left out to not be mentioned in the favorite users thing. *pouts*

(Anonymous) 2014-07-14 12:40 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, I didn't get mentioned either.

Suppose we're not on anyone's bad side.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-14 01:53 am (UTC)(link)
I heard a joke about anal prolapse a while back and ever since I've been on the verge of having a panic attack every time I have to crap. I know I'm probably freaking out over nothing, but I can't even google info about it to reassure myself because I'm squeamish and can't take the risk of seeing pictures *shudders*
Consequently I'm now constipated (and on my period to boot, SUCH FUN) and I really need to find some way to deal with this. Any suggestions?

(Anonymous) 2014-07-14 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
It's incredibly unlikely that you'll have a prolapse. Take a deep breath, let it out slowly, eat some fiber, go for a run, and relax and let things go.

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Fandom Recruitment Thread

(Anonymous) 2014-07-14 02:57 am (UTC)(link)
It seems pretty frequent on F_S that posters will say "I wish more people were into my fandom..." which isn't really a secret, but feels like an attempt to stir up conversation and interest in the fandom.

So -- this is the chance to talk about your fandom and why more people should be into it. A canon you wish more people would consume, or talk about, or fandoms where there are one or two people writing good fic but not enough people responding or appreciating it. (This doesn't have to be small fandoms. This is also the place for "I'm in a big fandom but only 1 or 2 writers are interpreting it the way I want.)

I don't actually have an example for myself; rather, I'm looking for cool fandoms to be part of.
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EARTH 2

[personal profile] fingalsanteater 2014-07-14 03:27 am (UTC)(link)
Because it's a cool show with NO FANDOM and I want to talk about it.

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David Willis

(Anonymous) 2014-07-14 07:27 am (UTC)(link)
Okay, so while I knew he had problems when dealing with criticism for awhile now, I finally reached my limit as to how much of his shit I can ignore, and promptly stopped reading his stuff

But, while I'm normally a very positive person who believes that complaining about things all the time is a bad thing, I need to bask in hatred right now

So, anybody with a problem with his work, is love to hear it. Let me here his worst attributes.

Re: David Willis

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I can see that there are problems with his work, but I have to say the most recent 'oh my God he is saying that there cannot be happy lesbians because this particular character enjoys shipping tragic femslash' wank was like a parody of 'this is why we can't have nice things'.

Though I don't think 'getting butthurt because people misunderstand him and posting about how sad it makes him is the answer either. If you can't deal with that kind of criticism (and can't distinguish the silly from the serious stuff that needs addressing) then don't read your feedback.

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(Anonymous) 2014-07-15 08:29 pm (UTC)(link)
I just wish I was a Dalek so much.

(Anonymous) 2014-07-15 09:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Why? Even Daleks don't want to be Daleks.

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