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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-03-18 06:43 pm

[ SECRET POST #2632 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2632 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Game of Thrones]


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[Patrick Stump / Fall Out Boy]


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[Men in Black, Agent Coulson]


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[Twin Peaks]


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[Defenders of Berk/How To Train Your Dragon 2]


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[Lily Allen]


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[Attack on Titan]


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[The Brittas Empire]


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[Panic! at the Disco]


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[Frozen]













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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
Meh. I don't have a lot of female friends. And I wasn't catty at all (I was sort of a pushover). It is just that I generally identified more with the interests and personalities of my male friends.

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[personal profile] iceyred 2014-03-18 11:02 pm (UTC)(link)
I honestly thought that was Mila Kunis for a second. /nothing else to add.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
Because that's how friendship works. Hey idiot, has it occurred to you that maybe she just doesn't know any women who she wants to be friends with? Friendship isn't a conscious decision. It happens through circumstances and natural feelings.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:06 pm (UTC)(link)
You sound like a landwhale

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that a lot of what Lily Allen says and does is annoying or offputting or I disagree with.

That said: you don't know her personally and you have no way of knowing anything about her personality. You're making an assumption based entirely on her public image. Do not do this. The most you can say is that she says dumb shit. Anything about her emotions and personality and who she is in her private life you cannot know.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
Bullshit. Having no female friends only means that you haven't met any women that you'd have as much in common with as you do with the boys.

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[personal profile] mekkio 2014-03-18 11:10 pm (UTC)(link)
RANT/ Yeah, I kind of side eyed any woman who goes, "All my friends are boys. I don't get along with women at all." Because that's half the population of the planet. If you don't get along with any of the three plus billion people, I don't think the problem is with them. It's you.

I also side eye women who add the excuse, "Well, I just relate better with boy stuff and interest."

One that is sexist. You are making tiny boxes assigned "boy only interests" and "girl only interests" which is not how the world works. Because you could show me the "girliest" of girls and I will guarantee you that she likes something that would be categorized as being "masculine." And the reverse is true. Find me the "manliest" of men and I will also guarantee you that he likes something that would be categorized as being "feminine." Because people don't live in rigid boxes. And two, you think you are special in that regard, that you like "boy things" that makes you different from every other women? HAH! Because, I hate to break to you, women liking masculine things and doing masculine things is nothing new and has never been new. /END RANT

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[personal profile] caecilia 2014-03-18 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
actually this sounds just like the "Father's Daughter" archetype in 45 Master Characters by Victoria Lynn Schmidt, but I guess she never bothered to read it.

tsk tsk.
Edited (just like nobody bothered to read my amusing comment tsk tsk TSK) 2014-03-19 01:44 (UTC)

(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
She's a slutty, whorey cunt of a bitch who I hope dies of an STD. EOS.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
So you're implying that women who have lots of male friends have an obsessive need for male attention? And she's the catty one?

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[personal profile] fauxkaren 2014-03-18 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
I rarely make friends with men because ~misandry~.

Actually idk.

I just have trouble connecting with men? Probably because I'm really wary of them. lol. Too many bad experiences, I guess.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)
Not having female friends makes you a misogynist, you say? REALLY? Well, I don't have any female friends because I don't have any friends at all! SO THERE!

I'm so lonely.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)
She says we don't need feminism? Did I mishear the line in Hard out Here where she's like "We've never had it so good, we're out of the woods, and if you can't detect the sarcasm, you've misunderstood"? Isn't that line pretty openly saying that we DO still need feminism?

Also, news flash, people can have whatever friends they want, of whatever gender they want. Friendship is not a political statement, for god's sake.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:50 pm (UTC)(link)
If you would be so kind as to search for feminism and social justice on the internet, you'd probably understand why there are so many celebrities trying to move away from labeling themselves femininsts (Lily Allen, Lady Gaga, Madonna, et al). That shit is cray cray. The loudest feminist demographic is a bunch of fucking mental misandrists seeking to elevate women while simultaneously ignoring the inequalities faced by men.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-19 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I think all these people saying it's impossible to have trouble finding women to be friends with unless you're an idiot or sexist must either live in a big or diverse place or have more widespread interests. I meet a lot more guys with whom I share interests than I meet women. I have awesome girl friends and my closest friends are women but I just don't run into women like them as often.

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(Anonymous) 2014-03-19 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
An overwhelming majority of my friends are other girls (not for any past backstabbing, it's just what I'm used to) and even I have a couple of male friends.

But any women who says "I'm not like other girls." as if it makes them 'better' needs to shut the fuck up

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EVERYONE STAAAAHP

(Anonymous) 2014-03-19 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
There is nothing wrong with, and sometimes valid reasons for, not having female friends (or only having one or two of them).

There IS something wrong with:
1) Bashing women as a whole;
2) Writing women off altogether; and
3) Bragging about how you don't befriend women.

These are completely separate things that don't necessarily overlap! Criminy!

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Just came in to say Lily Allen is pretty much a complete bitch by the sounds of it. She wrote/published a song ridiculing and humiliating her brother for being a lazy drug addict in his teens, despite her doing and selling drugs in her teens even though she was rich anyway. And then she wondered why he was annoyed by it. Also, going on a long hiatus because "bawww people are downloading my music and taking some of muh moneyyyy".

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I don't give a shit if your friends are all male, all female, or a mix. What I do care about is your attitude about it. If it just happens to be that you fell into a group of friends and they are all the same gender, so be it. If it is because you think you are "oh so speshul" and "not like other girls" and "no one but guys understands me and shares my interests" I think you're talking bullshit and are ridiculous. People of both genders share your interests, I guarantee you.* You are not amazing and wonderful because you don't act like a stereotypical girl. Not every single girl is out to get you and backstab you. (If they are, I might be more inclined to wonder WTF is wrong with you that everyone does that to you.)


* Unless you are Hannibal Lecter and your interests are killing people and making gourmet food out of them. In which case, I am fairly sure that pretty much no one of either gender shares your interests.
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I'm not like other girls

I fucking hate this stupid shitty mentality
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[personal profile] elephantinegrace 2014-03-19 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
Try not to slip on the sarcasm.

Seriously, people don't see why bragging "I don't have female friends" and "I'm not like other girls" is misogynistic? The bit about feminism I can take or leave because third-wave feminism has yet to take over the more ignorant white feminists (white feminism being an ideology, not an attack on feminists who are white, can we stop having this conversation please?) and people might not want to associate themselves with feminism in its current state.

(For people who are wondering why more sane feminists don't call out the less sane feminists, it's because by the time we've been feminists long enough to see that they actually exist outside of the strawman projection by more toxic MRAs, we'v already realized that we won't be changing anybody's mind if they aren't questioning if they're wrong, and so we don't bother. We're too tired shielding ourselves from enemy fire to also block friendly fire, so to speak.)

But to argue that men and women are equal now...I don't even know where to start. The fact that boner pills are insured but birth control isn't? The fact that we're still paid less for the same job with the same experience? The fact that I still feel awkward speaking when I'm the only woman in the room specifically for that reason? If you think men and women are treated equally, you need to get glasses, hearing aids, and maybe an entirely new central nervous system.
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The problem with these kinds of discussions is that there are generally two kinds of women (and hell, yes, men too - I've met men who do the reverse who could land in these categories) who have few female friends.

1) Women who aren't like most other women because they have largely (socialized) "masculine" interests and find it hard to meet women with those interests. Those women they do find they have no problem befriending.

2) Women who "aren't like other women" - because according to them "other women" are bitchy and catty and humorless and they are, like, sooooooo not. They're cool, like a guy! So they go out of their way not to befriend women.

But when we (rightly) criticize 2) a lot of 1)s pour out of the woodwork to justify their (justifiable) lack of female friends and otherwise derail a valid discussion about internalized misogyny. And I say this as a 1) myself - it's not about you. It's not about me. Would you befriend a rare women who did share your interests, who you did click with? Then it's not about you. Stop taking offense where there is none.

That said, please don't lump 1)s and 2)s in the same group. There are plenty of men I've known (especially if they like fashion or theatre) who have almost all female friends because of their interests. It just happens.

...In the case of Lily Allen though there's basically zero doubt that we're talking about 2) here. My hobbies are video games, tabletop gaming, sci-fi, diving, working out, and airsoft sports, and I can still find some women who share those interests with whom I click. Lily Allen likes dresses and makeup and fashion and singing, and she can't find female friends? I would've called bullshit even before the "I'm not like other girls" nail in the coffin.

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I wonder where all these anons who only meet "stuck-up, traditionally feminine bitches" live because where I am, it's the opposite. I run the gamut of having masculine/feminine interests and I've never had a problem meeting girls with the same interests and almost all of my friends are female. Whereas most of the men I meet are usually jerks with insufferable, offensive opinions or creeps who just want to get in my pants, especially when they find out I like video games. I realize that could be construed as bragging, but it's actually just annoying as fuck since I'm asexual and genuinely want male friends.

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If that's all true she does sound pretty shitty.

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