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[ SECRET POST #2632 ]
⌈ Secret Post #2632 ⌋
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[Game of Thrones]
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[Patrick Stump / Fall Out Boy]
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[Men in Black, Agent Coulson]
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[Twin Peaks]
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[Defenders of Berk/How To Train Your Dragon 2]
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[Lily Allen]
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[Attack on Titan]
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[The Brittas Empire]
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[Panic! at the Disco]
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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)That said: you don't know her personally and you have no way of knowing anything about her personality. You're making an assumption based entirely on her public image. Do not do this. The most you can say is that she says dumb shit. Anything about her emotions and personality and who she is in her private life you cannot know.
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I also side eye women who add the excuse, "Well, I just relate better with boy stuff and interest."
One that is sexist. You are making tiny boxes assigned "boy only interests" and "girl only interests" which is not how the world works. Because you could show me the "girliest" of girls and I will guarantee you that she likes something that would be categorized as being "masculine." And the reverse is true. Find me the "manliest" of men and I will also guarantee you that he likes something that would be categorized as being "feminine." Because people don't live in rigid boxes. And two, you think you are special in that regard, that you like "boy things" that makes you different from every other women? HAH! Because, I hate to break to you, women liking masculine things and doing masculine things is nothing new and has never been new. /END RANT
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Well, I don't know about that.
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tsk tsk.
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Actually idk.
I just have trouble connecting with men? Probably because I'm really wary of them. lol. Too many bad experiences, I guess.
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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:44 pm (UTC)(link)I'm so lonely.
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(Anonymous) 2014-03-18 11:46 pm (UTC)(link)Also, news flash, people can have whatever friends they want, of whatever gender they want. Friendship is not a political statement, for god's sake.
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(Anonymous) 2014-03-19 12:18 am (UTC)(link)But any women who says "I'm not like other girls." as if it makes them 'better' needs to shut the fuck up
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EVERYONE STAAAAHP
(Anonymous) 2014-03-19 12:30 am (UTC)(link)There IS something wrong with:
1) Bashing women as a whole;
2) Writing women off altogether; and
3) Bragging about how you don't befriend women.
These are completely separate things that don't necessarily overlap! Criminy!
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(Anonymous) 2014-03-19 12:35 am (UTC)(link)* Unless you are Hannibal Lecter and your interests are killing people and making gourmet food out of them. In which case, I am fairly sure that pretty much no one of either gender shares your interests.
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I fucking hate this stupid shitty mentality
There's no sexism in this thread AT ALL!
Seriously, people don't see why bragging "I don't have female friends" and "I'm not like other girls" is misogynistic? The bit about feminism I can take or leave because third-wave feminism has yet to take over the more ignorant white feminists (white feminism being an ideology, not an attack on feminists who are white, can we stop having this conversation please?) and people might not want to associate themselves with feminism in its current state.
(For people who are wondering why more sane feminists don't call out the less sane feminists, it's because by the time we've been feminists long enough to see that they actually exist outside of the strawman projection by more toxic MRAs, we'v already realized that we won't be changing anybody's mind if they aren't questioning if they're wrong, and so we don't bother. We're too tired shielding ourselves from enemy fire to also block friendly fire, so to speak.)
But to argue that men and women are equal now...I don't even know where to start. The fact that boner pills are insured but birth control isn't? The fact that we're still paid less for the same job with the same experience? The fact that I still feel awkward speaking when I'm the only woman in the room specifically for that reason? If you think men and women are treated equally, you need to get glasses, hearing aids, and maybe an entirely new central nervous system.
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1) Women who aren't like most other women because they have largely (socialized) "masculine" interests and find it hard to meet women with those interests. Those women they do find they have no problem befriending.
2) Women who "aren't like other women" - because according to them "other women" are bitchy and catty and humorless and they are, like, sooooooo not. They're cool, like a guy! So they go out of their way not to befriend women.
But when we (rightly) criticize 2) a lot of 1)s pour out of the woodwork to justify their (justifiable) lack of female friends and otherwise derail a valid discussion about internalized misogyny. And I say this as a 1) myself - it's not about you. It's not about me. Would you befriend a rare women who did share your interests, who you did click with? Then it's not about you. Stop taking offense where there is none.
That said, please don't lump 1)s and 2)s in the same group. There are plenty of men I've known (especially if they like fashion or theatre) who have almost all female friends because of their interests. It just happens.
...In the case of Lily Allen though there's basically zero doubt that we're talking about 2) here. My hobbies are video games, tabletop gaming, sci-fi, diving, working out, and airsoft sports, and I can still find some women who share those interests with whom I click. Lily Allen likes dresses and makeup and fashion and singing, and she can't find female friends? I would've called bullshit even before the "I'm not like other girls" nail in the coffin.
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(Anonymous) 2014-03-19 01:45 am (UTC)(link)I realize that could be construed as bragging, but it's actually just annoying as fuck since I'm asexual and genuinely want male friends.(no subject)
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