[ SECRET POST #6030 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #6030 ⌋

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Name the fandom. And repeats, etc.

(If you think something in this thread is a troll, please ignore it! Conversation is fine, but OT wank makes stuff harder to keep track of in this thread. Thanks.)

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01. https://i.imgur.com/WIN4uT8.png

[(Anonymous)]

I haven't reread Wind in the Willows for ages, and now I wonder if this would bother me, too. When I was a kid, I didn't really notice. I mostly just remember how nice it'd be to picnic with Ratty and ride in a boat, and have dinner with Badger in his cozy den.

[(Anonymous)]

It's been long enough since I read this that I only have a hazy notion of what you're talking about. I had no idea how to place Rat and Mole in relation to the class system in Britain when I encountered this book, and I guess Badger and Toad would be like less-rich and more-rich nobles, respectively? But feel free to correct that if I'm missing something. It seems like an interesting premise, at least. Although I'm sorry it's diminishing your enjoyment of the story!

[(Anonymous)]

It was published well over a century ago, nonny, are you surprised that its mores are not those of 2023? The past is another country, etc.

[meadowphoenix]

I'm not saying I was extremely class conscious, but I also figured the class dynamic, which I did think were pronounced in the book, was sorta the point. That's why Toad getting arresting is so fucking funny, because his privilege doesn't save him at all (and then it does lol). I think I read Pride and Prejudice at the same time, so that might have been why I clocked it.

To a certain extent the book is one of those which prizes the rule of law as a way to sober the upper classes. After going to jail, even though he breaks out, Toad is much less of an asshole because of it.

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02. https://i.imgur.com/Z7gByPE.png

[(Anonymous)]

Is this the most obscure thing fs has ever referenced?

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03. https://i.imgur.com/YNVXVbC.png

[(Anonymous)]

An attempt at rationalization that came right from the characters' mouths sounds so cringe, I can't believe people do that. Like how is that not just embarrassing as hell to write? How do authors type that out and think... yeah, that'll convince people my ship is OK. Yeesh.

[(Anonymous)]

That ... sound equal parts sad and hilarious. I'm sorry, anon.

[(Anonymous)]

Your preferences are entirely valid and seem to be fairly popular. However, you seem to be ascribing negative motivations to others for liking something you don't like, which is a bit ironic under the circumstances.

Personally I love ships with complicated, ethically dubious dynamics, but I'm not into them for the toxicity itself, nor am I into fics that brush aside all the very deep-seated issues, and emotional and psychological brambles the relationship entails for the characters.

That intense thorniness is the main feature for me. Make that shit as fraught as you reasonably can without it tipping into melodrama.

No, I don't want obvious, preachy justifications in my fanfic, and yeah, there is such a thing as too much realism for me. But in general, the whole appeal of ~problematic~ ships for me is how complex they are, and how hard they make my brain work to figure out a viable way forward for the characters. I love the emotional insolubility; the psychological gridlock; the societal minefield.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh lol I dislike this for like, the opposite reason. If I'm reading about ~problematic~ shit I want them to own it. Get all the way into the fucked-up-ness of it, not be like "oh it's actually fine because reasons". Ignoring it seems even more boring than handwaving it imo, but to each their own I guess!

[(Anonymous)]

Excellent choice of image for this secret XD.

[feotakahari]

I read this Ladybug/Hawk Moth fic where Ladybug defends people's right to write in-universe Ladybug/Hawk Moth fics, opposing the strawman who says RPF is bad. I found it incredibly awkward.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never understood the point of taking away the appealing aspect of a ship, problematic or otherwise, if you're out there fundamentally changing the basic framework of a ship then... why are you even into it in the first place? It makes no sense to me.

[(Anonymous)]

The self righteous in-fic justification sounds annoying and insecure. But I don't agree with you on disliking psychological drama. When I read darker fic, I love fics that get into the characters' emotions and mental states! I guess cause I find it an interesting character study, and because I read stuff like that for catharsis, so the more psychologically involved the better, typically. I do get what you're saying about wanting a fantasy to just be a fantasy without bringing realism into it, I've definitely felt that way about some fics that I wish stayed more in the realm of fantasy. I think it's a matter of personal preference and what draws you to reading about heavier subject matter in fiction.

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[kaijinscendre]

A friend in college loved the Mortal Instruments series. She wanted me to read them so badly she gave me like the first 4 books. I tried my best but I hate them. So I would read a detailed summary of the book, return it, rinse and repeat for the others. Had favorite characters and everything, lol.

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[(Anonymous)]

Excuse you? I had hair down to the back of my knees in high school and college, and waist length well into my thirties. I didn't usually put part of it in front of my shoulders because it would get in the way, but aside from that, what's supposed to be "daft" or "stupid" about her wig? Or about the guy's hair, for that matter?

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AFP?

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NS, NF, etc.

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[(Anonymous)]

DownForEveryoneOrJustMe (https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/) is informing me that the AO3 has been out of comission for the past two hours, and still is. Thought it was worth commenting on here, and seeing if anyone knows what's up or has had similar problems recently.

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