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⌈ Secret Post #2707 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 1 (also a repeat x 3) - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Bridge of Birds

[(Anonymous)]

There was a secret maker awhile ago who recommended this book, and I finally got around to reading it and I liked it! It wasn't what I expected, and it started off pretty slow, but I can definitely see why OP craved this kind of book. It's very unique and imaginative.

Just wanted you to know, OP.

Do any of you own old letterzines?

[(Anonymous)]

What kind of stuff was in them? How were they arranged? Did the editors pick topics that the letter writers sent in responses to? How do they compare to fandom discussion nowadays?

Are we doing the book club soon?

[(Anonymous)]

I read Fingersmith so long ago now that I'd nearly have to read it all over again to work up enthusiasm to talk about it.

weirdest things you've found out about friends

[(Anonymous)]

go!

I think... we've accidentally gained a dog

[ansela_jonla]

We've been looking after a dog for one of my brother's friends. He's an 18 week old staffie pup called Dodge (short for Dodge E Bastard). If things don't go the friend's way, we'll end up with Dodge for up to six months.

He's a sweet little dog. A bit boisterous, thinks body parts are chew toys, tends to go to the toilet where he is, and doesn't understand the concept of "bed time", but all these are expected of a puppy. The thing is, I'm not so sure my mum would be willing to give him back after six months, or that he'd be willing to go.

By that time we'll have housetrained, microchipped and vaccinated him. Apparently his owner doesn't want him neutered, for some reason, but that may be necessary, in order to curb certain undesirable behaviours. The fun in getting all that done is that he gets carsick, as we discovered today, and the vet we use is most definitely not within walking distance.

The other options are the friend's brother, who wants to train Dodge to be aggressive, or the RSPCA, who would definitely neuter him before adopting him out to someone, and then the friend would definitely never get him back.

Sherlock

[(Anonymous)]

I finally got around to watching Sherlock--

I like it a lot, and I have no idea where the crazy rabid fandom came from. I mean, I can see where people develop obsessions with Sherlock, feeding into that whole "I can get the mysterious loner guy to love meeeeeee", and I do see the ship "the mysterious loner guy loves someoooooone", it's just... crazy fandom.

Honestly, though, I don't understand why anyone would *honestly* want Sherlock to be with anyone. He would be a good boyfriend, and if he was, it would kind of run counter to what makes him interesting in the first place.

Gen fic recs and requests

[(Anonymous)]

Have a lot of underappreciated gen fics bookmarked? Craving gen in a shipping-oriented fandom world? Or just want a change of pace? Excellent!

Rec great gen fics, or request gen fics for particular fandoms and/or focusing on particular characters or events. (Actually, I'm pretty sure that with the really large fandoms, you can be as specific with your request as you want, as long as it's not focused on shipping.)

Remember that long plotty gen fics, rather than little character studies or missing scenes, are the rarest, so some people might be especially glad to get them.

Maleficent SPOILERS

[(Anonymous)]

don't think I've seen anyone bring it up? Anyway, seeing it tonight! Haven't heard good things about it, but then, my expectations have been low from the beginning, so maybe it will seem better by virtue of this?

Feel free to talk about spoilers, I just want to come back to this thread later.

My predictions:

Maleficent is evil because young Stefan broke her heart.

Maleficent isn't *really* evil.

Prince Phillip is totally useless (judging from the actor, not evil, but definitely not the heroic brave prince).

Maleficent doesn't turn into a dragon. This I'm just guessing from the lack of seeing Maleficent turn into a dragon from the trailers, which is such a big moment I'd be surprised they haven't even hinted at it.

The movie goes to great lengths to try and portray the good characters are stupid and/or evil to justify why such a theatrically evil character as Maleficent could possibly be good. With the exception of Aurora, because she appears as good in just about all of the posters and trailers.

What Big Deals (or wanks) have been going on in fandom spaces outside this community recently?

[intrigueing]

Just wondering what everyone else has been doing and if any big events have flown under my radar. I haven't really had the time to hang out in any fandom spaces other than this one for a few months now, so I'm feeling a tad isolated. :(

More Puppies!

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Fanfiction Opinion Question

[(Anonymous)]

For people who don't like modern AUs: how do you feel about reincarnation-into-modern-times fic? I have seen a lot of these in Tolkien fanworks and SNK/Attack on Titan fanworks. Are they better or worse than standard modern AUs? Do you think they work better with some fandoms than others? I'm asking for curiosity's sake.

have you been lucky lately f!s?

[(Anonymous)]

i've been playing pokemon x for about 30 hours total and i already caught 2 shinies! i have a purple and orange roggenrola and a pink skorupi :)

my brother's been playing the game since it came out and he's never met one. he's so bitter about it, it's hilarious.

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Fingersmith Discussion

[the_missing_y]

Firstly let me apologise for my shitty behaviour yesterday. I have an explanation (not a good one) and I'll give it if anything feels it's owed, but otherwise, let's just say I had a funny turn and leave it at that.

Thanks and specific apologies to Diet_Poison, who I put in a particularly awkward situation.

Ok now that's out the way:

What did we think of the book?
I'll start.

Fucking loved it. Just the right amount of "Oh shit this is going to be miserable" to grip me, without throughally depressing me.

Re: Fingersmith Discussion

[diet_poison]

No worries man! I hope you're doing okay.

I loved it too, oh man. The twists were so unexpected. And the ending hngggh. Right around the end of the first part I had this idle thought, "lol, what if Maud and Sue fell in with each other?" and then like ten pages later it actually happened. I spent the rest of the book knowing I'd rage if they didn't get their happy ending, and then they did and it was beautiful.

I hate hate hate Gentleman, I mean he was a great character but what an enormous prick. I'm glad he died. I was really hoping either Sue or Maud would kill her, and it seems pretty clear at this point it was Maud. He also provides an interesting contrast to Mrs. Sucksby. I'm surprised that I still kind of liked her even after figuring out that she was essentially as bad a person as Gentleman - that she pulled the wool over Sue's eyes for 17 years. But I think it helped that she had at least a partial redemption at the end in sacrificing herself to save Maud and Sue from the law.

There was some really good foreshadowing and some really nice parallels (the kid glove and the thimble). One thing I just realized now is Maud's line when she stole her uncle's razor - "but this is not that kind of story - at least, not yet". I was like hmmm, is she going to kill him later? But I think that was actually there because of her attacking Gentleman at the end. Also, the bit about Maud's mother being Mrs. Sucksby, and Mrs. Sucksby saying that Maud's mother had been hanged as a murderess - she obviously made that story up, but it ended up being true anyway. (at least the hanging bit, and the conviction, even if Mrs. Sucksby didn't wield the knife herself.) I'm still not sure though why she made it up though, and didn't just tell Maud the truth, when she told her everything else.

As for the other characters:

Christopher Lilly - creeper with a capital C. Yuck. Glad he's dead as well. I approved of Maud's destruction of his library, saw it as a way for her to get some recompense for the sick way he used her.

Dainty and John - I actually rather liked Dainty, even if she was supposed to be what...an airhead? I'm not sure what they were trying to do with her. But she had a good heart and in the end made a big difference for Sue. I think she was like Sue's older sister. John was a giant douche, but for some reason I liked him too. A good character I think.

Mr. Ibbs - I think it's a nice subversion to make Mrs. Sucksby the interesting character and Mr. Ibbs, the male proprietor of the house, basically a prop. I mean he served no narrative purpose except to set up Sue's background as a thief and provide the setting.

Charles - oh man, I don't know how I feel about Charles. I felt really bad for the way Sue used him, but Sue was desperate, and she was also right about Charles having nowhere else to go (although he did end up going back to Mrs. Cream's in the end? IDK.) But Sue was also kind of right about him being a big crybaby. He was clearly at least her age and had no nerve whatsoever. Then again, he was brought up as a servant in a giant empty house, with no street smarts and no experience with dangerous people. Poor guy has his entire world shattered in a matter of weeks.

Dr. Christie and the nurses I just hated. Fuck 'em all.

There's a lot of interesting commentary here on the culture of the time - mainly, gender expectations and attitudes towards/treatment of mental illnesses. It was all rather dreary and I'm glad it's changed in the past two centuries of so, oh man.

And at the end I was left wondering - was Maud and Sue's relationship actually realistic? I wonder if f/f couples were able to stay together in the Victorian era, I mean obviously they'd have to do it under cover, but is that feasible given the freedom (or lack thereof) women were usually granted? I think it was wonderful how they both got out from under Gentleman's thumb and were able to have a hand in determining their own fate. It was rage-inducing throughout the book how Gentleman's word was always taken over theirs just because he was a man - so ironic since he was such a villain - and he held a string around both of their necks.

There are so many other little comments I could make, but I'll stop now and see what others have to say...XD

[lsm71059]

I agree with you regarding Ellie/Emily. We should qualify it is according to the Tiva/Ziva/Cote fandom, not the NCIS fandom in general. Thanks for voicing what I've been thinking.