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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2014-05-14 07:10 pm

[ SECRET POST #2689 ]


⌈ Secret Post #2689 ⌋

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Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 02 pages, 026 secrets from Secret Submission Post #384.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.

[personal profile] fscom 2014-05-14 11:12 pm (UTC)(link)
Official advertise your fandom-related thread.

RULES FOR THIS:
1. NO images bigger than 600x600 in either direction (banners, et cetera).
2. ONE POST PER USER under this thread.
3. What IS allowed: roleplay advertisements, fandom comms, fandom events, things like that.
4. What is NOT allowed: anything for profit, any kind of fic/art commissions, seeking 1-on-1 RP, that kind of thing.

[personal profile] fscom 2014-05-14 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Official clickables thread.

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1. NO huge images or columns of images that require scrolling, please.
2. ONE POST PER USER under in this thread.
3. If you're going to post, try to at least help the others.

[personal profile] tigermoth01 2014-05-14 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!
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icecheetah: A Cat Person holds a large glowing lightbulb (Default)

[personal profile] icecheetah 2014-05-14 11:26 pm (UTC)(link)
Adopt one today! Adopt one today! Adopt one today! Adopt one today!
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[personal profile] mautradutor 2014-05-14 11:42 pm (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] anker 2014-05-15 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
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[personal profile] ansela_jonla 2014-05-15 05:20 am (UTC)(link)
Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!
heartsday: Sakata Gintoki & Katsura Kotarou (Gintama) (ginzura katana)

[personal profile] heartsday 2014-05-15 06:14 am (UTC)(link)
spacebabie: River Tam and James Norrington...used when I write crossovers. (Default)

[personal profile] spacebabie 2014-05-15 03:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!Adopt one today!

[personal profile] fscom 2014-05-14 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
General comments:

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Favorite snack foods!

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I'm partial to pineapple bits.

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Most embarrassing holiday story

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Come on fs, you have to have a few!

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Most memorable encounters with a celebrity

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I love hearing stories about peoples' encounters with a famous (or slightly famous) person, good or bad. Share your stories!

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Favorite and least favorite aspect about yourself.

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Anyone else a serial procrastinator

[personal profile] philstar22 2014-05-14 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm seriously procrastinating on exams. All of mine are take-home, and I'm struggling with motivating myself to take them. Anyone else have this issue? I do much better when I'm working on a specific schedule.

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Weird fears

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Inspired by secret 2!

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cuteanimalpics: (rabbat)

<3

[personal profile] cuteanimalpics 2014-05-14 11:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I haven't had time to make the cuteanimalpics post yet, and I'm in the middle of something important, so it may be a little late, sorry about that!

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Cultural appropriation?

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I saw this post yesterday (guess where I found it) and it really made me sad. It simply said: "Friendly reminder: Eating foods that aren’t from your own ethnicity is cultural appropriation so please don’t do it!!"

I know this will get a few eyerolls as a "poor little white people" response, but seeing this post did make me tear up a bit. To think that there are people who think that the world should be so segregated that we aren't even allowed to enjoy other cultures' cuisine is just heartbreaking to me. And also...what are white Americans supposed to eat, then, exactly?? Hamburgers and hot dogs? I agree that things like white girls wearing bindi or non-Asians wearing hanbok and kimonos to look ~cool~ is kind of weird and disrespectful, but to me, this food thing is taking it way too far.

Anyway, I was just wondering what you guys think about this sentiment. Is eating food that's not from your ethnicity cultural appropriation? Do you think it's bad? What do you think of cultural appropriation as a whole? Should it even be a thing?

Please discuss respectfully.

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What celebrities have you met?

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Preferably spoke to personally (do share stories!) but just saw is okay too! Go on! Famous people! Make us jealous!

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Stereotypes/jokes about imaginary cultures

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One human constant is that the minute you divide us up into tribes or subgroups, we will immediately form stereotypes and start making jokes about the other tribes. Not a joke; there have been studies.

I was joking with a friend recently about the Duke of Weselton from Frozen, and we decided that everyone jokes about how boring and uptight Weselton is, with no magic or adventures or anything. We immediately came up with these:

What do you call Happy Hour in a Weselton bar? Free cookies with your milk.

After forty years, that Weselton couple finally divorced because of sex. They couldn't agree on whether to try it.

Weselton guy comes storming into the local magistrate's office and says "I want a divorce from my wife!" The magistrate says "But you've been married twenty years, what's wrong?" "Well, when we were first dating, she told me this joke. And I just now got it, and it's DISGUSTING."

They thought a prince of Weselton had a magic power once... imagine their relief when we found out it wasn't magic. Turns out if you stuck a lump of coal up his ass, it would turn into a diamond through purely natural processes.


This literally is one of my favorite hobbies now: imagining how people would be silly, petty jerks about totally imaginary nationalities, religions, etc. Because people are always silly, petty, jerks.


Are they stubborn? I heard the Earth Kingdom had to ban mirrors after staring contests became their leading cause of death.

How many firebenders does it take to roast a chickenhog*? Six: five to claim the honor of being the first one to roast it fastest, and one to find a new chickenhog that isn't incinerated...


Why does a Jedi wear a robe? Because pants don't have room for the giant stick up his ass.

Did you know Hutts have feet? It's okay, they don't know either.


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What is something you hate doing but everyone you know loves?

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I am stuck clothes and shoes shopping for a wedding. I hate shopping! But my sister loves it. So I usually just let her pick out stuff for me and dress me up (it helps I have no fashion sense).

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[personal profile] fscom 2014-05-14 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Games thread!

Book Club

[personal profile] the_missing_y 2014-05-14 11:21 pm (UTC)(link)
Sorry for being AWOL these last two nights. Usual excesses.
Anyway. Thinking today will eb the 4th or 5th night, right? So last day. Will announce the winner tomorrow, get your last minute votes in tonight.

href="http://www.easypolls.net/poll.html?p=536ab166e4b060ef2f0c1326">Book Selection June 2014

Voting guidelines
So, if I understand correctly, the situation is that each IP can only vote once, And for this month only, you'll onle be able to choose one book for that one vote.

I understand there may be a work around for some people, dunno what's up with that, maybe if you have something funky with your IP address you can vote more than once? Dunno the techy shite, but there it is and I don't know how to change it. If this applies to you, would you kindly not abuse the your ability to mulit-vote, Keep it fun for everyone, even if that means you don't get to read your preference this time out, not going to be much of a book club if you only read stuff you know you want to read.

Happy Voting

Re: Book Club

(Anonymous) 2014-05-14 11:37 pm (UTC)(link)
Guys who haven't voted: I was won over by the description and bought The Golem and The Jinni to read no matter who won this month, and let me tell you: It is really, really good.

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Ugh, Tumblr fandom.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
So, it's been mentioned before, but the Sebastian Stan fans making lewd comments about how he looks like a "junkie hooker" are bothering me. Not only am I getting serious secondhand embarrassment from them doing it so publicly - on the guy's Instagram? Seriously? - but I'm squicked out about the jokes themselves.

The things they're talking about - stuff like deep set eyes and complexion - are pretty standard Slavic features. As someone with roots over there and similar traits, it's more than a little creepy. It's annoying me that I'm now wondering if people think similar things when they look at me. Also, something about the weird mocking combined with fetishization of what are essentially racial traits just... gets to me.

I think it's just a personal reaction of something hitting too close to home, but I am sitting here going "ew".

Oops. Misfire.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 12:25 am (UTC)(link)
Reposted above. ^

Re: what "Just for evil" means.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 05:56 am (UTC)(link)
It means that the person describing the villain considers their motivation opaque and unsympathetic. Sometimes they're ignoring a perfectly good backstory because they conflate working out why a villain does what he does with "justifying" it, but sometimes people can't relate because the writer sketched out the villain's personality in the vaguest possible terms: their villain is a walking plot device who does things only to broadcast their awfulness to the audience and justify whatever the hero eventually does to stop/punish them.

Evil literally for evil's sake is really hard to play straight, because it often comes across as a flipped parody of people who do things they consider good in order to maintain the belief that they are good. A character who builds their identity on being evil will go out of their way to perform evil acts specifically for "what this says about them" and as a motivation, the compulsive need to prove their alignment can seem forced and inauthentic.

What can work better is having a character who's so alienated from and antagonized by the culture that tried to raise/indoctrinate them that they don't trust its assertions at all. They're more predisposed to treat people and things that are demonized by said culture as potential allies and resources than they are to be charitably disposed towards anything that it labeled good.

Motivations that get repeated over and over by authors who aren't really interested in their villains as people decay into a kind of pat-answer gibberish. That's what you're generally running into when you see villains who want "power" or to "rule the world". Power is the whole key to feeling like your existence matters, like there's any reason for you to be here at all. Villains tend to go from not having enough power (being acted-upon, humiliated, and victimized) to acting like no amount of power will ever satisfy them.

There's a class interest inherent in commercial stories. Trace it back to where the very words come from, and you'll find that villain originally meant villager. It's from late feudalism, when the aristocracy feared the subset of the peasantry who could congregate. They rebelled more and caused all sorts of trouble. In more modern terms, we're still looking at villains through the eyes of the "haves," internalizing their prejudices and pearl-clutching fear of being displaced by some hungry, ambitious upstart who isn't playing by the rules.

It's in that context that stories of someone marginalized and oppressed who turns into a *crazy monster* who wants to do to the formerly-powerful what was done to them first ... make a certain kind of sense. It's the context for evil witches, criminal minorities, sinister second sons in any setting involving inheritance, and so on. They're portrayed as illegitimately aspiring to wield a power that "rightfully" belongs to someone else. And they're always at odds with the prevailing, current thought in our world. In a society that holds up freedom as the greatest good, the villain will be depicted as overtly anti-freedom, whether that makes any sense for them or not.

Re: what "Just for evil" means.

(Anonymous) 2014-05-15 06:00 am (UTC)(link)
Misfire, reposted above.

I can't figure out how my post ended up down here when I specifically hit reply to someone several threads up, though. :(

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